Vinyl record sales hit an 18-year high ....

For me it is a positive sign that the vinyl lp format is still alive. I stopped collecting in the late 80's but I have got back into lp's in the last 15 years. I am very glad that I didn't dispose of my collection in the 80's as it would be very expensive to replace them all now. Perhaps the growth in sales is partly due to the nostalgia of audiophiles in their 50's and beyond wanting to hear the original music (on lp) of their youth.
 
mep said:
Jim is just trying to poke a thumb in analog's eye and diminish the value of the increased sales and the upward trend. Just giving it 'perspective' don't ya know.
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Perspective is correct. I wouldn't get any more excited if Ferrari doubled their sales, it still has no impact on the overall auto industry. You do know our hobby has little meaning to 99.5% of our neighbors.
 
still-one said:
Perspective is correct. I wouldn't get any more excited if Ferrari doubled their sales, it still has no impact on the overall auto industry. You do know our hobby has little meaning to 99.5% of our neighbors.
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I'm still waiting for that table and phono section to head my way.
 
Albert said:
For me it is a positive sign that the vinyl lp format is still alive. I stopped collecting in the late 80's but I have got back into lp's in the last 15 years.
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Is that because you bought your first brand new LP in 20 years recently? :disbelief:

Albert said:
I am very glad that I didn't dispose of my collection in the 80's as it would be very expensive to replace them all now. Perhaps the growth in sales is partly due to the nostalgia of audiophiles in their 50's and beyond wanting to hear the original music (on lp) of their youth.
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How about it's partially due to people beginning to understand how good LPs sound if done correctly?
 
So record sales are going up good.
Record Companies are using materials they already have for the most part.
Presses are refurbished so no new presses are being bought.
Artists are on board to make a deal for the most part before the last of their hair falls out.
Records were 5 bucks each back when I was buying them now they are 30 40 50 60 and more each
Hard not to make a profit which is fine.
45 rpm two records in one sleeve double the price even better.
Most of us are earning as much or more percentage wise as the price has gone up so sales go up.
The price of the gear to play it on is another matter off the hook in some cases.

all in all it is positive
 
still-one said:
Perspective is correct. I wouldn't get any more excited if Ferrari doubled their sales, it still has no impact on the overall auto industry. You do know our hobby has little meaning to 99.5% of our neighbors.
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So? Does anything else in life? That is called individuality. It's also an indication or our societies lack of appreciation for quality. Perhaps that is the real China Syndrome.

Would wearing a $100,000 Muller affect your neighbor wearing a $50 Chinese knockoff. jOr vice versa? Do you think 99.6% of people would appreciate eating at the French Laundry or a $50,000 bottle of wine. I don't get your point. Or would your neighbor having their home featured on the cover of AD affect you?
 
Garth said:
So record sales are going up good.
Record Companies are using materials they already have for the most part.
Presses are refurbished so no new presses are being bought.
Artists are on board to make a deal for the most part before the last of their hair falls out.
Records were 5 bucks each back when I was buying them now they are 30 40 50 60 and more each
Hard not to make a profit which is fine.
45 rpm two records in one sleeve double the price even better.
Most of us are earning as much or more percentage wise as the price has gone up so sales go up.
The price of the gear to play it on is another matter off the hook in some cases.

all in all it is positive
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And new vinyl - for the most part - sounds AMAZING!


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mep said:
Is that because you bought your first brand new LP in 20 years recently? :disbelief:



How about it's partially due to people beginning to understand how good LPs sound if done correctly?
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Yeah, that too. I still prefer LP over CD.

As for the first new LP in 20 years, actually no. I forgot about a few that I've bought in the last five years but mostly I buy used records.
 
Myles B. Astor said:
So? Does anything else in life? That is called individuality. It's also an indication or our societies lack of appreciation for quality. Perhaps that is the real China Syndrome.

Would wearing a $100,000 Muller affect your neighbor wearing a $50 Chinese knockoff. jOr vice versa? Do you think 99.6% of people would appreciate eating at the French Laundry or a $50,000 bottle of wine. I don't get your point. Or would your neighbor having their home featured on the cover of AD affect you?
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If you would go back the the post I quoted (MEP's) it might help you get my point. I was attempting to compare how the doubling of low sales volume items have little impact on either the overall sales of recordings (LP's) or automobiles (Ferrari's).

Apparently you did get my second point. The only reason we even care about the increase in vinyl sales is because we spend a lot of time on sites such as this with other like minded individuals. The other 99% could care less. As you note the about the same small segment of the population that cares about Frank Muller watches, eating in 3 Star Michelin restaurants, or drinking vintage wines. You must admit most people know when they see a nice home.
 
Australia's largest discount AV, electronics chain JB HiFi is currently reducing CD rack space and increasing vinyl rack space. CD still has larger floor space. That's a fact.
 
FlexibleAudio said:
If the goal is to draw any conclusion about vinyl from an SQ perspective, to me this stat is kinda apples and oranges. A significant portion of the music sales are to the "average listener" looking to get pop music into a convenient playback system. This part of the market is NOT going to place SQ over convenience. It is an entirely different buying decision and distorts the measurements if the purpose is to attempt to measure what the market is saying about the more preferable format for SQ.

The more revealing stat to me would be to track the percentage of vinyl music sales to the audiophile community. I would like to see that trend.
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Back to my original post, why talk about Volkswagon sales on a forum about top-end sports cars. The markets are completely different, with different consumers using different buying criteria to fulfill different objectives.


still-one said:
If you would go back the the post I quoted (MEP's) it might help you get my point. I was attempting to compare how the doubling of low sales volume items have little impact on either the overall sales of recordings (LP's) or automobiles (Ferrari's).

Apparently you did get my second point. The only reason we even care about the increase in vinyl sales is because we spend a lot of time on sites such as this with other like minded individuals. The other 99% could care less. As you note the about the same small segment of the population that cares about Frank Muller watches, eating in 3 Star Michelin restaurants, or drinking vintage wines. You must admit most people know when they see a nice home.
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Your conclusion that doubling sales has little meaning in the aggregate market is true, but your conclusion has even less meaning. Who cares about an aggregated market view incorporating the large segments that focus on attributes irrelevant to the people on this forum.

Within the subset of the market focussed on SQ, growth and market share gains in vinyl have been significant and to those interested in this market segment (i.e., Ferraris) it matters. To me you come off as using an irrelevant statistic to somehow indicate a deficiency in vinyl. To me thats just silly. But I admit, maybe its all on me and I am completely missing a relevant point about vinyl you are making to this particular audience.
 
FlexibleAudio said:
Back to my original post, why talk about Volkswagon sales on a forum about top-end sports cars. The markets are completely different, with different consumers using different buying criteria to fulfill different objectives.




Your conclusion that doubling sales has little meaning in the aggregate market is true, but your conclusion has even less meaning. Who cares about an aggregated market view incorporating the large segments that focus on attributes irrelevant to the people on this forum.

Within the subset of the market focussed on SQ, growth and market share gains in vinyl have been significant and to those interested in this market segment (i.e., Ferraris) it matters. To me you come off as using an irrelevant statistic to somehow indicate a deficiency in vinyl. To me thats just silly. But I admit, maybe its all on me and I am completely missing a relevant point about vinyl you are making to this particular audience.
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Paul
What is silly is you attributing that I, anywhere in this thread or elsewhere as far as I know on this site noted a "deficiency" in vinyl. We will just leave it that you don't get it.
 
Myles B. Astor said:
For all the doubters. Count the number of new presses.

2015: The Year of the New Record Presses! | Analog Planet
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If you love vinyl, you have to love the good news. Every year the sales of vinyl is increasing. Many people want to pooh-pooh vinyl sales because they appear to be a small percentage of CD sales, but you have to love the trend of vinyl sales. The amount of care and love that goes into pressing the best of vinyl LPs has to warm your heart compared to what is going on in the digital world.
 
Chad is so overwhelmed with requests from the major labels that he's turning away business or he couldn't press his own albums. IIRC, his capacity is 66,000 albums a week so that tells one something.
 
Myles B. Astor said:
Chad is so overwhelmed with requests from the major labels that he's turning away business or he couldn't press his own albums. IIRC, his capacity is 66,000 albums a week so that tells one something.
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Not to mention that Chad went from pressing LPs on one shift to a second shift and now to hiring a third shift! Let's just hope that all three shifts turn out the same quality LPs!
 
Myles B. Astor said:
Chad is so overwhelmed with requests from the major labels that he's turning away business or he couldn't press his own albums. IIRC, his capacity is 66,000 albums a week so that tells one something.
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that he can afford a mansion and a yacht?

he actually told me he bought a 2nd home for relaxation and hasn't spent much time there. we should all be happy he's the workaholic that he is. IMO, between Fremer and Chad they're responsible for much of this vinyl resurgence.
 
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