Thread: record weights/clamps
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November 7, 2023, 08:35 PM #1
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record weights/clamps
what do you guys use, looking for something nice for my burmester, thoughts
Burmester 911mk3 amplifier
Burmester 077 pre-amp
Burmester 217 turntable
Burmester 151mk2 streamer
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November 8, 2023, 12:20 AM #2
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I use the clamp that comes with my Michell. Though, I don't think it matters what you use; mass is mass, force is force. It's all the same physics at the end of the day. As long as you affix the LP securely to the platter, that's all that's important. This is a simple application.
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November 8, 2023, 10:44 AM #3
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Rega suggests not to use either on their TTs but I have always been curious if they do much.
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Main System - Rotel RCD-1572 / Rega P3 > Luxman 505UX Mark II > Fyne Audio F502SPs > Synergistic Cables
Secondary - OPPO 93 > VAC CLA 1 MKII Pre > Odyssey Stratos > Dynaudio Audience 82s > Tara Labs Cables
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November 8, 2023, 11:28 AM #4
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what is your spindle like ? threaded ? is your platter matted ? if so what does the manufacture recommend ? I believe some mats are not intended to be 'clamped upon' ?
FWIW, I have a VPI AriesIII with a the super platter and utilize a BDR clamp.Cheers ! …. Dave
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November 9, 2023, 12:04 AM #5
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November 9, 2023, 03:09 AM #6
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SME provided a machined masterpiece w/table -- SME HQ suggested the following & may apply to other clamps -- don't tighten the clamp to the record. Instead, just snug it to the LP & back it off 1/2 turn.
Best to all,
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November 9, 2023, 11:16 AM #7
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Re: record weights/clamps
I use HRS ADL with my Rega.. sounds Great.. looks Great.. is Great! !
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November 9, 2023, 01:00 PM #8
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Bob, this seems confusing, for if one 'snugs' (not tightens) and then backs off a half turn you are in effect clamping nothing ? Besides, depending on the threads(fine or course) there would be a big difference in a half turn. That's why I asked Porsche for more info on his platter / spindle
Cheers ! …. Dave
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November 9, 2023, 01:17 PM #9
Re: record weights/clamps
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November 9, 2023, 02:11 PM #10
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Re: record weights/clamps
it also becomes a speed issue with greater weight on Rega designs which have a minimalist philosophy in their approach. many turntables view high mass as an asset, Rega sees things differently. their platters are lighter, maybe their motors are more effected by extra weight? so adding an unknown weight to a Rega platter is not going to help the speed performance. i have no personal experience with record weights on a Rega, but that might be one part of why they say that.
personally i do use record weights on all my three turntables. i have a half dozen record weights that i use.
for my CS Port i have a 6 pound stainless steel record weight designed for it. i use it every time.
i have a Durand record weight i use for my Wave Kinetics NVS tt. i also have the screw down record weight that the NVS came with, but the Durand is better. both are better than no weight. i also have a Blue Light Audio leather wrapped record weight that is very good, but it's a bit wide for the labels, and can interact with the cartridge on the run out groove occasionally, so i don't use it. i also have a HiFi Stay record weight i don't use at all; actually i have three of them.
i was using a Thorens record weight on my Esoteric T1 which worked well, but i just got a Massif Lignum record weight that is better there, and it's equal or maybe a little better than the Durand on the NVS too.
i've found that record weights sound better than naked pretty much always. YMMV
my system is very dynamic and so air borne resonance is an issue that i think record weights help with. but record weights can over dampen the sound too, so it's not a one size fits all answer. you have to listen and see how it goes.my system on Audiogon; https://www.audiogon.com/systems/615
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November 9, 2023, 05:19 PM #11
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^^^ +1
"i've found that record weights sound better than naked pretty much always. YMMV"
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this on the Direct Drive Pioneer PL-520..
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November 10, 2023, 02:08 AM #12
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Amps: VAC 450iQ Monos/HRS M3X2-1921's, G7 Footers/G-Links/Conecoasters.
Preamp: VAC Master Preamplifier
Digital: dCS Rossini (APEX DAC, Transport & Clock).
Analogue Preamp: VAC Renaissance SE Phono with XLR Output option & Nordost Tyr 2 XLR's.
Analogue Sources: SME 20/2 w/V arm & Valhalla TA cable, Palo Santos Presentation Cartridge & Akai GX-400D Reel-to-Reel w/relapped heads by JRF Magnetic Sciences. Akai RC-17 cabled remote.
Vibration Control: TT on HRS M3X2-1921.
Speakers: Wilson Audio Alexia w/Acoustic Diode kit.
Power Cables: 4 Nordost Odin Supreme Reference on amps/preamp & DAC. Ansuz C2 on Transport & Clock.
Power Distribution: Shunyata 8000 w/Omega XC.
Power Outlets: 2 Furutech GTX-D NCF (R) 20A duplex outlets.
Speaker Cables: Nordost Odin Supreme Reference/Sort Lifts.
Signal Cables: Nordost Odin XLR's on dCS Rossini DAC & amps. Nordost Odin 2's, 110-ohm AES/EBU on dCS gear.
Clock Cables: 3 each 75 ohm 1.25M Nordost Valhalla BNC/BNC Digital
RCM: Audio Desk PRO
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