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    Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Please give me some real world experiences and suggestions.
    Under $5k, must have balanced out (balanced in a plus), high enough gain for low output MC but also at home with MM or MI cartridges. I lean more towards open holographic presentation.
    A few I have considered. PS Audio Stellar, Parasound JC3+, BAT Vk-P6, Pass XP-17
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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    In the sub 5k price point I like what you have chosen and I'll add ........

    ModWright Instruments | PH 9.0 Tube Phono Stage

    not sure if it will fulfill your balanced requirements though ........
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    If a bit above 5k is ok, I will give a try to the Zesto audio phono Andros 2
    Analogue source: Kuzma R, 4 Point 11’, ZYX Ultimate Omega GH
    Digital source: Lumin T2, NUC8 i5, Roon Rock, network connected.
    Amplification:Zesto Andros 1.2, Luxman C-900u, Karan KAS 400.
    Speakers: Magico S3 MKII
    Cables: interconect: Neotech RCA NEI 3001 (phono to preamp) all other Nordost Heimdall II XLR speakers: Nordost Heimdall II
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    ISOL 8 Minisub Wave, main Neotech NEP 3001, all other DH labs.

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Pass XP17. We had it in the store and loved it.


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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    I really enjoy my SimAudio NEO 310LP. It comes in at about $2k, has both SE and Balanced outputs (one of the reason I went with this one was the Balanced outs). Has a slew of settings for both MM and MC cartridges including gain up to 66db. When using the Balanced outputs the gain goes up to 72db. The 310 is also built like a tank using thick metal casing and the Toroidal Power Transformer is separated and isolated internally.
    Amps: Hattor Passive w/Tube Active Stage, McIntosh MC7100 v2
    Turntables: Rega RP8, NEO PSU; Technics SL-1500C; McIntosh MP100
    Catridges: Rega Ania Pro; AudioTechnica VM740ML; Ortofon 2M Blue
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC Server; Roon; HQPlayer
    Headphones: SimAudio NEO 430HA; Abyss Diana Phi; Astell&Kern SE200
    Speakers: Magnepan .7 w/Magna Risers; Rythmik L12 (x2)
    Other: Oppo BDP-105; Magnum Dynalab FT-101A, ST-2

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    hifi:
    power: Audioplan Powerstar, Audioplan Finefilter, Audioplan Powerplant, Powercord
    tube amp: Jadis DA 50 Signature RC, Line Magnetic 508ia
    speaker: Living Voice Avatar 2
    turntable: Pro-Ject Xtension 10 + Ortofon Quintet Black MC
    phono stage: Remton 383 MKII
    cables: Audioplan Musicable bic 7a, Profigold, Wilbrand

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    I have used Pass XOno, Ayre, BAT VK P-5 & P-10, and conrad-johnson. I love the CJ
    Jim

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Audiospecials Phonolab (current euro puts it closer to $6k) has balanced inputs, two fully separate phono inputs (not on an input switch) and transformer balanced outputs. I am their USA dealer with inherent bias so won't comment on subjective qualities, but is technically superb. One to consider amongst the other excellent ones mentioned already.

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    I’m likely breaking a rule here, but i have a Parasound jc3+ in the marketplace. All of those discussed here work well.


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    Speakers: TAD R-1 MkII, REL 212SE (2)
    Power: Nordost QBase8 Mk2 (2), QX4, Qkore1, 3 and 6, QK1 (2), QV2 (2), AddPOWR EAU2 (2)
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    Symposium Super Plus Platforms under subs, on top of EVPs

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Esoteric E-03 (latest version is E-02) worked well for me with MM,MC and MI though single ended only. Accepts two inputs and up-front load adjustments. Currrently using a Viva Fono that I like a lot but it's MC only.

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    Well, that PS Audio Stellar would be on my list too. Great review by Mikey Fremer. And a very nice price if it delivers as stated. Definitely worthy of an audition.
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    My system: Etsuro MasterGold cartridge , AMG v12 turntable with ‘12JT turbo’ tonearm, bespoke LFD phono cable, CS Port C3EQ, dCS Rossini, INCOMING: Announcing pre-arrival mighty Pilium Alexander Pre & Achilles amp, Alsyvox Boticcelli X, Diesis Roma, Bayz Courante 2.0 Transparent Ref MM2 & Gen5 signal cables, Shunyata SigmaNR, AlphaNR,
    Zitron Python power cables. Shunyata Hydra Triton v3, Stillpoints. HRS. Acoustic environment optimized by Dr. Bonnie Schnitta of SoundSense.

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    There are many great phono amps. If you want flexibility have a look at the Octave phono module.
    Pre amp: Ocatve Phono Module Power amps: Octave MRE130 Turntable: SAC Girati Grande. Tonearm: Dynavector 507mkII Cartridge: Dynavector Ikeda 9TT Streamer: Aurender A10 Power Distributor: Anzus Mains D8 Speakers: Raidho X-3 Speaker Cables: AudioQuest Rocket 88 XLR Interlink: Ansuz A2, XLR Interlink: Purist Audio Design - Venustas Phono interlink: Cammino Serie 1.0 - PH 1.0s Power cables: Anzus Mains Ceramic, two Pom, Aluminium, X series Audio Rack: Rack of Silence 4 and 2.

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Also you can look at Modwright PH 9.0
    A tube phono with MM and MC input. You can have a balance output.
    I have one and love it.
    Simaudio Moon 600i v2 - Simaudio Neo 260D - Rega P8 Apheta2 - Modwright PH 9.0 - Elac Adante AF-61/Gaia II - Bis Audio cables

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    I have a BAT VK-P5 that was factory upgraded to the p10 output stage and 6 pak output caps. The guts look like a P10 without the built in step up transformers. It is a great sounding phono stage. Used VK-P10’s come up for well within your budget and it would check all the boxes.
    Amplification: BAT VK-3i, BAT VK-200
    Speakers: Infinity RS7 Kappa
    Analog: Sota Star, SME M2-9, Sound Smith Aida, BAT VK-P5 6 Pak Plus
    Digital: Audirvana/Tidal, Sonos Connect, Denon DCD-1560, Emotiva XDA-1
    Power: ​PS Audio Power Plant Premier
    Cable:Harmonic Technology AC-11 Power, Audio Sensibility Impact SE PC OCC phono, Neotech NEI-3002 PC OCC balanced Interconnects, Acoustic Zen Satori PC OCC speaker cable.

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    There is a BAT VK P-12 on Audiogon for less than $5K.
    Amplification: BAT VK-3i, BAT VK-200
    Speakers: Infinity RS7 Kappa
    Analog: Sota Star, SME M2-9, Sound Smith Aida, BAT VK-P5 6 Pak Plus
    Digital: Audirvana/Tidal, Sonos Connect, Denon DCD-1560, Emotiva XDA-1
    Power: ​PS Audio Power Plant Premier
    Cable:Harmonic Technology AC-11 Power, Audio Sensibility Impact SE PC OCC phono, Neotech NEI-3002 PC OCC balanced Interconnects, Acoustic Zen Satori PC OCC speaker cable.

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Has anyone heard the Boulder 508? Thinking of simplifying my system somewhat. On/off switch, and MC/MM switch as only choices. Perhaps cartridge choice would be a bit more limited.
    Amp : DIY FirstWatt M2x mono amps
    Digital : Bricasti M12, Oppo 203
    Analog : Technics SL1200G, DIY K&K Audio Maxxed Phono Amp
    Speakers : Daedalus Audio Muse Studio
    Headphone : BHSE + Voce

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by Bones13 View Post
    Has anyone heard the Boulder 508? Thinking of simplifying my system somewhat. On/off switch, and MC/MM switch as only choices. Perhaps cartridge choice would be a bit more limited.
    Boulder 508 Phonostage - TAS Review
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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Oh, I’ve done my googling (well DuckDuckGo-ing) , asking about experiences from people here.
    Amp : DIY FirstWatt M2x mono amps
    Digital : Bricasti M12, Oppo 203
    Analog : Technics SL1200G, DIY K&K Audio Maxxed Phono Amp
    Speakers : Daedalus Audio Muse Studio
    Headphone : BHSE + Voce

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Manley Chinook, some can be found for under $2000 used. A little tube roll and bingo.
    PassXa-30.5, W4S STP, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, HD650, HD800s, Dan Clark 1.1, OPPO 203, 105.

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by Bones13 View Post
    Oh, I’ve done my googling (well DuckDuckGo-ing) , asking about experiences from people here.
    What are you trying to simplify vis a vis your K&K ?

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    Re: Phono Preamp Recommendation

    Each phono is different but being limited to 100 ohms input might be er...limiting

    ( btw the Phonolab offers 68db gain at 27 ohms output by rca &/or xlr or 74db at 100 ohms xlr ( which is the same output inpedance as the Boulder...)

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