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    Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    Is anybody using a long XLR interconnect (5M-7M) from the Phono Stage to the Line Stage? With new construction starting with my new listening room Iíll be rearranging things a bit.

    Iím assuming it should be OK with the balanced XLR interconnect as opposed to the RCA interconnect.
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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    Long line level XLR balanced interconnects are in the range of about 100 meters (300 feet) or much longer.
    5 or 7 meter XLR interconnects are short XLR interconnects indeed.
    Now for seldom seen, phono cartridge out to pre-amp in, it's a different ballgame.

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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    Long line level XLR balanced interconnects are in the range of about 100 meters (300 feet) or much longer.
    5 or 7 meter XLR interconnects are short XLR interconnects indeed.
    Now for seldom seen, phono cartridge out to pre-amp in, it's a different ballgame.
    The application would not be from phono Cartridge to preamp. There would be a 1 meter RCA interconnect from cartridge to phono stage and from phono stage to preamp would be. 5-7 meter XLR interconnect.
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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    For interconnects much longer than 3 meters (10 feet) a complete balanced XLR interconnect systems is most often better than an RCA interconnect system.

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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    For interconnects much longer than 3 meters (10 feet) a complete balanced XLR interconnect systems is most often better than an RCA interconnect system.
    that is completely false.
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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    I agree with XV-1. provided the input impedance of the line stage is 10x greater than the output impedance of the phono stage you wont have freq roll off at the extremes, I actually like to see 20x to be totally safe. Furthermore, low capacitance ICs are preferred when running single-ended, I've run up to 30 ft of single-ended ICs without deleterious effects.
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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    Quote Originally Posted by XV-1 View Post
    that is completely false.
    completely false ?? tell us why !!
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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    For both long and short runs I use balanced if at all possible, because with so much gear and external EMI I can only run single-ended connections for a short length before they will pick up noise.
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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoAudio View Post
    For both long and short runs I use balanced if at all possible, because with so much gear and external EMI I can only run single-ended connections for a short length before they will pick up noise.
    even with shielded SE connections? thanks!
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    Re: Long XLR Cable Length From Phono Stage to Line Stage

    Yep, but it depends on the design of the Single Ended RCA output stage, interconnect cable, input stage and AC mains wiring system.
    It's called 'Common Impedance Coupling Noise' current.

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