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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    What you are describing is "rain screen". Basically a gap between the exterior finish and the face of the exterior wall system that allows moisture and water to escape. Required by the building code in almost all cities and towns here in Vancouver area. Overkill for sure and adds thousands in cost to new homes here. You have to have a building envelope engineer sign off on it all.
    Sounds like you won't have any trouble this time around. Leaky Condo repairs is huge business around here.
    On another topic, the crows ripped up my boulevard turf to feast on Chafer grubs. Sure make a mess, I'll deal with it in the spring
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Oh yes, indeed, along with the little Alfa Romeo Spyder I drove for many years after I left the university. And if I could have my 57 year old brain in my mid-twenties body! Then I'd have been happy to find some magnetic chics.
    I often tell people that if I could go back to my 20's, with my 55 year old brain intact, I would be the biggest whore you have ever seen. Most people usually agree with me that that would be their priority too!
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    I often tell people that if I could go back to my 20's, with my 55 year old brain intact, I would be the biggest whore you have ever seen. Most people usually agree with me that that would be their priority too!

    Bob, now wouldn't that be a novelty.

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    First prospect ...the girl in your avatar!
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Back to the topic at hand, I'm beginning to interview acoustic consultants, as I've decided while the system can sound pretty good, the room, as is, is never going to let things sound as good as is possible. My wife frowned when I started talking about adding treatments, and said "why don't you just go ahead with the remodel so it will look nice too." Bless her heart.

    I expect to remove the two glass doors, possibly angling the wall a little in the corners to incorporate bass traps. The two side walls will be made to be a little more symetrical so I can get gear on one wall, vinyl storage on the other. Instead of built in album drawers I'll have a cabinet made (if we relocate again I want to take it with). I'll move the whole house audio stack to a place upstairs, and ditch the bar, fridge, microwave nonsense. Final design likely to have a home theater look rather than tweaked out audio room, again because we may someday move again. Goal will be 2-channel sound, but I'll wire for 7.1.

    If you have done a custom room, I'd be happy to have referrals. And any horror stories too, so I'm not niave.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Bob,

    Please check your PM folder. I sent you a PM on this topic earlier this month on March 10th. I did not get a room custom designed but did have Nyal Mellor (Acoustic Frontiers) voice my system recently and the results have been fabulous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Back to the topic at hand, I'm beginning to interview acoustic consultants, as I've decided while the system can sound pretty good, the room, as is, is never going to let things sound as good as is possible. My wife frowned when I started talking about adding treatments, and said "why don't you just go ahead with the remodel so it will look nice too." Bless her heart.

    I expect to remove the two glass doors, possibly angling the wall a little in the corners to incorporate bass traps. The two side walls will be made to be a little more symetrical so I can get gear on one wall, vinyl storage on the other. Instead of built in album drawers I'll have a cabinet made (if we relocate again I want to take it with). I'll move the whole house audio stack to a place upstairs, and ditch the bar, fridge, microwave nonsense. Final design likely to have a home theater look rather than tweaked out audio room, again because we may someday move again. Goal will be 2-channel sound, but I'll wire for 7.1.

    If you have done a custom room, I'd be happy to have referrals. And any horror stories too, so I'm not niave.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Bob,

    A few years ago we constructed a dedicated audio room for a client that was designed by Rives Audio. The results were fantastic and it looked amazing. I believe they are no longer in business but paying an audio consultant is well worth it. Especially if you want a room that is aesthetically pleasing to more than just audio geeks. The room was very detailed with corner bass traps, soffitt traps and
    custom ceiling panels. Even the record storage cabinets were built on an angle for acoustic reasons. The amount of detail that Rives designed in the treatments was incredible. Cost was quite high as all the wiring, detailed carpentry and cabinets were done to a high level of finish. Sound quality was incredible. Even just talking quietly in the room you could hear the difference.
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    Bob,

    Please check your PM folder. I sent you a PM on this topic earlier this month on March 10th. I did not get a room custom designed but did have Nyal Mellor (Acoustic Frontiers) voice my system recently and the results have been fabulous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    Bob,

    Please check your PM folder. I sent you a PM on this topic earlier this month on March 10th. I did not get a room custom designed but did have Nyal Mellor (Acoustic Frontiers) voice my system recently and the results have been fabulous.
    Anshul
    Hi Anshul

    Did this include recommended room treatment recommendations and layout or by "voice" do you mean strictly speaker placement?

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Keith Yates (Sacramento) and Paul Grimaldi (S.F.) are also widely respected acoustic consultants and designers, although Paul will probably try to sell you some of his proprietary products (MSC).
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Good plan, Bob. Recommend ceiling soffitt bass traps if you are going to go through it all. Look very discrete. If I did it again, I'd forgo the diffusers on the front wall (that most former Rives designs had)- they were overpriced for the sonic value. Bass traps, first reflections, and diffusion in the rear- and something on the ceiling if its low. That's the lion share of the work.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Hi Chris,

    Yes, it did include detailed written room treatment recommendations, measurements for the room and the speakers and the speaker placement. I have not yet done any of the room treatments.
    Anshul

    Quote Originally Posted by hiro100 View Post
    Hi Anshul

    Did this include recommended room treatment recommendations and layout or by "voice" do you mean strictly speaker placement?

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    Very cool. That's the same service I had signed up for so was curious if the "voicing" was something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    Good plan, Bob. Recommend ceiling soffitt bass traps if you are going to go through it all. Look very discrete. If I did it again, I'd forgo the diffusers on the front wall (that most former Rives designs had)- they were overpriced for the sonic value. Bass traps, first reflections, and diffusion in the rear- and something on the ceiling if its low. That's the lion share of the work.

    You'll laugh at how insignificant things like cables are after you go through it
    Damn Rives, when they went OOB they took my deposit.

    I expect the design will include bass traps in front corners, like you said some soffitt traps, diffusion at first reflections, rear wall, and ceiling. Depending on products used, hide them behind fabric or make them integral to the design. Lots of great design ideas can be seen on the net, though it should also not be too dissimilar to the the gestalt of our home. The as-built of the house doesn't completely match the blue prints, so there will be some destruction just to see what's inside/behind a couple walls. The final space not likely to be too much smaller, possibly a foot wider. I have 9'7" ceilings currently, so that could drop a little with a big cloud diffusor and still be comfortable.

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    Hi Chris,
    I actually had Nyal come over to my place as I was not sure if I could get accurate room measurements for him to look at remotely. The extra expense was totally worth it.
    Anshul

    Quote Originally Posted by hiro100 View Post
    Very cool. That's the same service I had signed up for so was curious if the "voicing" was something different.

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    Ah man, we could have split the cost for his airfare. Good thinking though. The costs to deal with the room is better spent than any component purchase so smart move.

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    I actually had contract Nyal to do remote services with me, but in the end bowed out (not because of anything he did or said, all logistics on my side). He graciously refunded my money in full after many, many months. He also offered to just give me some advice when I finally do start acoustic treatments for my room as well, which I do hope to capitalize on one day. Another nod for Nyal!


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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Sorry, I did not know you were still looking to have a 2-channel set up; otherwise I would have definitely reached out to you. Actually the air fare was really cheap -- $150 for a return flight from San Francisco.

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    Ah man, we could have split the cost for his airfare. Good thinking though. The costs to deal with the room is better spent than any component purchase so smart move.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Good morning everyone,

    I was just told about this thread. I hope some of you will be at this coming AXPONA in Chicago. I've started a new business called Resolution Acoustics. I have two rooms as close to identical as possible. I'm using Sonus Faber Stradivari speakers, Pass Labs XA100.5 amps for both rooms. A Pass Labs XP30 will feed the signal to both rooms. Wireworld is kindly supplying all the cables and they will be identical for both rooms as well. The only difference is that one room will be treated and the other room will be left untreated. I have designed all components to work together as a system and some are patent pending. The rooms are adjoining, so with the same source playing the same piece being split at the preamp, you will be able to go between the rooms and clearly hear the huge difference a well done room can make. This is being done without the benefit of any measurements of the room beforehand. I sincerely hope some of you can make it & judge for yourself what you hear.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Very cool. I am hoping to make it to Chicago and will check out your rooms if I do.


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    Welcome to AS drb968.
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Quote Originally Posted by drb968 View Post
    Good morning everyone,

    I was just told about this thread. I hope some of you will be at this coming AXPONA in Chicago. I've started a new business called Resolution Acoustics. I have two rooms as close to identical as possible. I'm using Sonus Faber Stradivari speakers, Pass Labs XA100.5 amps for both rooms. A Pass Labs XP30 will feed the signal to both rooms. Wireworld is kindly supplying all the cables and they will be identical for both rooms as well. The only difference is that one room will be treated and the other room will be left untreated. I have designed all components to work together as a system and some are patent pending. The rooms are adjoining, so with the same source playing the same piece being split at the preamp, you will be able to go between the rooms and clearly hear the huge difference a well done room can make. This is being done without the benefit of any measurements of the room beforehand. I sincerely hope some of you can make it & judge for yourself what you hear.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Removed the Herbies decoupling gliders from beneath my equipment racks this last week, and I'm sure glad I did. I had installed them wanting to spare the hardwood floors beneath my carpet, but decided to hell with the floors because when I put those Herbies devices under the racks the music went away. Even my wife said I'd f'd something up. All the sound was still there, but none of the music.

    I figured so long as I don't move things around, a few little point marks in the hardwoods would be OK. The style of pre-manufactured hardwoods allows a lot of marks upstairs to go unnoticed. Huge improvment.

    And it turns out Vicoustic's USA distribution is out of Seattle. I am going to visit their showroom in the Seattle Design Center next month. It will be nice to see a lot of their products at one time, in person. And I believe they offer some consulting as well at a very low cost if you're using their kit.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Cool... I opened the doors behind my speakers this last weekend and cranked some vinyl. Letting the room really breathe (it is open to the house behind the listening position) tightened up the lowest frequencies and the system sounded the best I've heard it. Gear is finally past the 600 hour mark, and the new Shunyata Sigma analog feeding the REF75 is settled in. Hoping the room remodel will make the room sound even better, and with the doors closed. (The remodel might include removing those doors, and widening the window. Not the best for sonics, but seeing Mt. Hood centered in the window from the listening position too good to pass up.)

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    The build-out of my remodeled room is nearing completion. Thought I'd post a couple pics showing the creation of the custom sound panels that'll be put on the walls. The holes and sizes are programmatically generated "random" pattern, and there is a different pattern centered on ear height. These fiberboards will cover differing thickness of hard fiberglass, which will then be hidden behind a fabric-wall. The panels will be located on the left, right, and rear walls. There will also be a custom suspended ceiling cloud.



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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    A few more pics showing the progress in the room...


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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    We finally had the wine cellar glass installed yesterday Inspection being performed by Merlin the cat!

    Now that the wall panels have been installed and ceiling cloud hung, I am waiting for carpet to be installed (next week) and the acoustic curtains hung (2 weeks). Assuming my LED fixtures [finally] come in, I will be able to re-assemble my rig early in February. The only remaining step will be a visit from my Wilson dealer to setup the Alexias.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Getting closer... EarthWeave wool wall-wall carpet installed today. Beneath the carpet is SoundSense Vibramat (which is a super high density carpet pad bonded to a mass-loaded vinyl base-layer), and over the carpet pad is a layer of SoundSense Lumitex acoustic fabric.

    What's left? Curtains are due next week, and I am told (fingers crossed) my LED recessed fixtures will finally be in next week too. Then I just have a few minor tweaks and can begin to reassemble the rig.

    I am going to have some fabric wall panels attached going down the hallway to the bedrooms. Hand claps there produce a nasty ring, and while isolated from the music space by the curtains, I'd prefer not to have the ringing.


    Vibrimat carpet pad topped with Lumitex fabric.


    Racks and gear will go on this side.


    Album cabinet will go on this side, in the recess area. Curtains will pull across the stairs.


    Curtains will also pull across the front wall window and doors. (And of course the Christmas garland will come down!)


    Finally, there will be curtains to separate the room from the hallway / wine-cellar.
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    Bob...it's looking very nice. I hope you enjoy your lovely audio space for many years to come Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home
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    Your Merlin-approved room is looking great already Bob! Good move placing the wine cellar next to your listening room🍷👍

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    Looks beautiful and extremely well thought out. Can't wait to hear more about it at the next Portland Audio Club meeting.

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    Bob - I just saw this. WOW! Wow! Wow! Your room looks amazing.


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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Ok Bob the wine cellar did it for me, holy crap , very nice.
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Absolutely gorgeous Bob!!
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    Splendid room! Well done.
    Roon NUC, Lumin X1 & L1, Ayre KX-5 Twenty, Ayre VX-R Twenty, Sonus Faber Olympica III, RAAL SR1a & HSA-1b
    Audience Au24-SX interconnects & Zenwave SSR-11 speaker cables, Sablon Gran Corona & Zenwave PSR-11 power cords. Shunyata Everest 8000.
    Adona Zero GXT, SRA, Symposium, & Stillpoints isolation
    , RPG, ASC, & Real Traps room treatment

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by CouveApproved View Post
    Looks beautiful and extremely well thought out. Can't wait to hear more about it at the next Portland Audio Club meeting.

    Brian
    Thanks Brian, I am looking forward to hosting some listening sessions once the room is finished, the rig reassembled, and speakers dialed in. Were you in attendance late last spring when I had some members over? (Back when I thought the remodel was going to start in June.) That session was supposed to be the front side of compare and contrast events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Thanks Brian, I am looking forward to hosting some listening sessions once the room is finished, the rig reassembled, and speakers dialed in. Were you in attendance late last spring when I had some members over? (Back when I thought the remodel was going to start in June.) That session was supposed to be the front side of compare and contrast events.
    I sorry, but I was unable to attend the first meeting due to a conflict with my work schedule. The one bad side of being a chef is you work when everyone else is off.

    I will definitely make the time when you host the next event. Have a great weekend!

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    Hey Bob,

    How's the acoustics in the wine cellar, cuz thats where I'd live........

    Seriously nice job you did, enjoy!

    P.S. Don't forget to fill the cellar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSectorA View Post
    Hey Bob,

    How's the acoustics in the wine cellar, cuz thats where I'd live........

    Seriously nice job you did, enjoy!

    P.S. Don't forget to fill the cellar
    Thanks for the kind words...

    Wine cellar glass creaks and squeaks a little when I walk by... I guess the floor there has a little movement and the channel at the top must not be perfectly flat/straight. Fortunately, there will be curtains keeping the glass from reflecting sound right back into the room. The cellar itself not big enough to hang out in, about 13' long and 5'7" wide. There is enough space to put label-view racks along the glass which will add another 150-180 bottle capacity for a total of ~1000. That should be enough!

    Current rate of consumption only slightly behind rate of purchase—it might take a little while to top off the cellar. Wine vs new vinyl will be the tough choice until the cellar is full.

    I intend to put some panels on the hallway walls, there is some echo/long decay to hand claps that needs to be tamed. I have lots of left over material so just need more fabric-wall tracks.

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    My new vinyl cabinet is almost done! Just a few minor details and stain. (It will go in the alcove/niche on the right wall.)

    The drawer faces will be covered with fabric, and the drawer box and face thickness, along with the fabric, were acounted for in the acoustic modeling of the room. I'll have another built for the rear of the room in the not too distant future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    My new vinyl cabinet is almost done! Just a few minor details and stain. (It will go in the alcove/niche on the right wall.)

    The drawer faces will be covered with fabric, and the drawer box and face thickness, along with the fabric, were acounted for in the acoustic modeling of the room. I'll have another built for the rear of the room in the not too distant future.
    Bob,

    You're a cabinet maker? Would be something else other than bikes, wine and music that we share. If not whoever did this did very nice work. Cherry? Love the dovetails on the drawers, ooze quality.
    Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSectorA View Post
    Bob,

    You're a cabinet maker? Would be something else other than bikes, wine and music that we share. If not whoever did this did very nice work. Cherry? Love the dovetails on the drawers, ooze quality.
    Hi Dan, sorry to say those are not my cabinet making skills on display. Maybe in my retirement years. (Oh wait, I'm back in school now at 59 training to be a therapist - retirement? What's that?) Running my business, taking classes, trying to find time to train, hoping to squeeze in some listening time—cabinet making needs to be hired out. The young fellow I've hired for the work is indeed a craftsman. I borrowed the design elements from the cabinetry throughout our home. Yesterday was my first glimpse other than drawings, I was very pleased.

    And yep, it is done in solid cherry.

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    Sons of bitches! The lighting store still has not delivered the LED trims for my recessed lights. Lets see, originally ordered in October. Finally took delivery of some trims in late November but returned them—I didn't care for how the 3000°K light looked when dimmed. (LEDs don't color shift when dimmed to a more orange color like incandescent or halogen.) I was to replace them with 2700°K trims, and the guy at the store ordered the wrong thing which had a long backorder. Finally early February parts arrived, but the wrong size! So, back those go and a month later I receive the wrong items again, this time the wrong style. Now I'm frustrated but still keeping my cool, told them do whatever is needed to get them by Friday. I called yesterday (Friday) and am advised they have to be "built". And another part that was supposed to have arrived last week didn't, then it was supposed to be here this week, but no, now not until next week.

    I've been more than patient with the outfit, tolerating their screw-ups and their excuses. Today I called and told them to cancel the order and the guy had the nerve to get irate at ME. He said he can't cancel the order, the parts are on the way.

    I calmly said to cancel the order and hung up. Then I called my credit card company to dispute. I don't think I've been unreasonable. After all, it has been 100 days since I returned the parts for exchange.

    My wife, banker that she is, said the company was probably having credit issues with their vendor, so they were likely having trouble receiving goods. Might also explain why the guy got all pissed off at me for cancelling.

    Amazon prime will get me one of the parts by Tuesday. The others I've had to go through another vendor. I am hoping for better results!

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    Bob,

    Just now seeing your room pics, congrats , a really gorgeous looking space and layout , job well done . Now excuse me , I feel rather homeless about now ....






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    Bob, sorry to hear about your troubles. Really frustrating. But your room is beautiful and it will be quite the haven when all is said and done! Good on ya, mate!


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    Hey Allan, thanks for the kinds words...

    Here's a couple pics of the room with the curtains. With the extra layers of Lumitex in the stairway and hallway curtains, they just weren't behaving with the frequency of folds originally spec'd. (The front curtains have only 1 layer of the Lumitex, which while a little stiff is trying to fold as designed.) So I had them attach every other carrier which made the ripples much larger & deeper. Depending on what the acoustician measures once everything is setup, I may add another bolt-width of curtains to both sides of the stairway grouping. This would make the ripples a little closer together, creating a more dense barrier to sound entering the room from upstairs. There are a pair of Viking fridges just at the top of the stairs, and they're a bit noisy in a white noise kind of way.) How that might affect the whole room performance would have to be modeled.

    The LED trims I am waiting on will highlight the curtains and back wall the same as those in the recessed niches.




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    OMG Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home


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    That is stunning, Bob, love it! Esp the wine room a few pics up!


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