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    Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Nice room Bob. Complete with wine/beer fridge on right hand corner ?

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    Good eye Miles! The Wilson dealer is coming down on the 12th to perform the WASP, and bringing an HRS platform for the AMG v12. (to replace the stolen one)

    I'm initializing the setup with a broken in Ref3/Ref110 combo. This way I can play music until the 12th to get a few hours on the Alexias, and the speaker setup can be done with used gear—I feel setting up with out-of-the-box REF10—REF75 pair probably not the best way to go. Then when speakers are in place, I can swap in the new REF gear, and burn some hours on those pieces too. After I've burned 600 hours on the stock KT120's in the REF75, I'll drop in a fresh pair of KT150's.

    I've contracted an acoustical firm to work with my architect — the left side of room will have built-in drawers for vinyl, and the right side, where the wet-bar is, will become a little recessed alcove where I can place my rig and finally get it out from between the speakers.

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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Very nice Bob. Sounds like your plan for break in is very methodical and the best way to approach it.

    I was just going to say, "lucky you to have a space large enough to allow racking with room to comfortably get behind the gear rack and wire stuff up"....and then you mention that it will all be in a recessed cabinet off to the side in the end. I agree that getting gear out from between the speakers is a good thing, but man, so is easy access behind gear to properly route cabling and make it NEAT. Maybe you'll end up with rear access in the recessed area too? That would be the best of both worlds.

    Regardless, congrats. The space looks fantastic!
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    Very, very nice!
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Wow! I can't believe its the same room. Nicely done. Enjoy them in good health. I guess everything went well with insurance.
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    Love the carpet color choice. Brightens, lightens and modernises a previously dark overcast room.
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Beautiful room Bob !!

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    At last, carpet arrived and profoundly changed the feel of the space. The dark hardwood floors really gave a man 'cave' feel, but the lighter color of the wool carpet adds a much more sophisticated feel to the room. This morning I started to put the rig together.




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    Congrats Bob! Beautiful room...very tastefully done. Great job!
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    The Wilson dealer came on Sunday and spent six hours WASPing the Alexias. They are pretty close to the back wall, much more than I would have imagined. And the tweeters are 12.25' apart, which has my listening position about 15' back. I had some older, broken in REF gear for the setup, then just swapped in my new REF10 and REF75 yesterday. I found new positions for them today, and they now have 4 hours.

    I spent a couple hours listening tonight in the almost darkness, with the meters turned off. That little REF75 is quite the amp. It drives the Alexias fine. And the room sounds quite good even with only the tube traps in the corner. If I run the volume up into the 90+ db range I hear things getting a little reverberant and confused with rock and orchestra, so there is some work to be done acoustically, but not so much I am not enjoying the hell out of having music again. (And tonight with a nice little Italian red! Wine that is!)


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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Bob, that's an absolutely beautiful room ! You deserve it, it's taken a while, but I bet it more than makes up for the long wait you had.

    Congrats again, and enjoy it for many years
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    The Wilson dealer came on Sunday and spent six hours WASPing the Alexias. They are pretty close to the back wall, much more than I would have imagined. And the tweeters are 12.25' apart, which has my listening position about 15' back. I had some older, broken in REF gear for the setup, then just swapped in my new REF10 and REF75 yesterday. I found new positions for them today, and they now have 4 hours.

    I spent a couple hours listening tonight in the almost darkness, with the meters turned off. That little REF75 is quite the amp. It drives the Alexias fine. And the room sounds quite good even with only the tube traps in the corner. If I run the volume up into the 90+ db range I hear things getting a little reverberant and confused with rock and orchestra, so there is some work to be done acoustically, but not so much I am not enjoying the hell out of having music again. (And tonight with a nice little Italian red! Wine that is!)


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    Congrats Bob! I agree with Myles on the KT150's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor View Post
    Try some KT 150s in the amps!
    KT150 tubes are on my list... I thought I'd go ahead and run the amp through break-in using the stock tubes. Then, just when the amp is at its musical best, slip in the KT150s for even more sonic bliss.
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    Oh hell, why wait? I went ahead and ordered up a quad of KT150s. Bring on the sonic bliss!
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Oh hell, why wait? I went ahead and ordered up a quad of KT150s. Bring on the sonic bliss!
    Super !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Oh hell, why wait? I went ahead and ordered up a quad of KT150s. Bring on the sonic bliss!






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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Bob a really nice room, now how can I fix this room
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    sorry i been missing this thread. everything looks great, youve come along way since ive seen this last. great job and congrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Oh hell, why wait? I went ahead and ordered up a quad of KT150s. Bring on the sonic bliss!
    Yes!!


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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    The Wilson dealer came on Sunday and spent six hours WASPing the Alexias. They are pretty close to the back wall, much more than I would have imagined. And the tweeters are 12.25' apart, which has my listening position about 15' back. I had some older, broken in REF gear for the setup, then just swapped in my new REF10 and REF75 yesterday. I found new positions for them today, and they now have 4 hours.

    I spent a couple hours listening tonight in the almost darkness, with the meters turned off. That little REF75 is quite the amp. It drives the Alexias fine. And the room sounds quite good even with only the tube traps in the corner. If I run the volume up into the 90+ db range I hear things getting a little reverberant and confused with rock and orchestra, so there is some work to be done acoustically, but not so much I am not enjoying the hell out of having music again. (And tonight with a nice little Italian red! Wine that is!)


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    Bob - do you have a spectrum analyzer that you can use to monitor the peeks of the specific frequencies? If not, I use this one on my iPhone for a quick and dirty analysis. (See below). You may want to get it, put it on the FFT plot mode and have a look. You want to identify where the specific peek(s) are in your room. Mine was 73hz. Above 90db excite which frequencies in your room?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Bob a really nice room, now how can I fix this room
    Nice digs!

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    Excellent Mike, thanks. I'll download that app. Did you use a specific test source with that tool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Excellent Mike, thanks. I'll download that app. Did you use a specific test source with that tool?
    I used pink noise, but also songs which seemed to excite certain frequencies. Try Diana Krall - Narrow Daylight (from The Girl In The Other Room album) or the entire Bob James/David Sanborn album Quartette Humaine. I have other too....but that's a good start.


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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Your room is gorgeous Bob, congrats.

    Yes they do look a little too close to wall, but every room is different, tape them out in that spot and then play around with them.

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    Congrats on the room. Absolutely lovely.
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    Re: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Bob - do you have a spectrum analyzer that you can use to monitor the peeks of the specific frequencies? If not, I use this one on my iPhone for a quick and dirty analysis. (See below). You may want to get it, put it on the FFT plot mode and have a look. You want to identify where the specific peek(s) are in your room. Mine was 73hz. Above 90db excite which frequencies in your room?

    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1413551980.260094.jpg


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    Thanks for the lead. I've downloaded a couple and just added this one for fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor View Post
    Can't put anything past these eagle eyes!

    That wine club membership sounds awesome!!!
    I thought the thing that was missing was a turntable. Screw the wine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    I thought the thing that was missing was a turntable. Screw the wine!
    Turntable is being setup, wine club deliveries coming frequently this time of year. In fact, I'm upping my count from the "rare washington wines club" because so far I'm really loving this club. Re the turntable, I just got a new stylus force gauge so can finally dial in the LPS.

    And Mike, my brief and hasty pink noise test @85db shows my peak at 63hz and of course also its double @125. I'll get a little more granular later, to see just how high the bump is, but at first glance the overall response was amazingly flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Excellent Mike, thanks. I'll download that app. Did you use a specific test source with that tool?
    I find Audiotools is a better iPad suite. It also costs like $50 bucks though. I use the internal iPad mike (which is adjusted by the app)- its not that bad honestly. I had an acoustics guy out to setup my speakers and he was seeing similar things in the bass through his full mike setup.
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    Home ownership is so much fun!

    When we bought our place we had identified some water seepage behind the fascia boards on our deck, even had a small holdback on purchase price for future repair. Last week we had the deck railing removed for repair, sandblasting, and powder-coating. It was severely rusted 'cause it wasn't made ready for the Great Pacific Northwet when originally made. That allowed the next contractor to remove the fascia boards to survey the extent of damage. Here's what we found. Great example of how to build a deck wrong...





    Worse, we have to demo the rock columns to get access to where the beams attach. F me! I guess my music room modifications will have to wait a while.

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    I just read through this entire thread and was very happy to see things come together for you, Bob...until ^^^ last ^^^ post. Sorry for your troubles! As a native of this area and having owned several homes here, I can attest to what this wet environment can do to structure.

    Best of luck to you!

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    Sorry to hear that Bob, that really blows. Good luck w everything!


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    Myles B. Astor, Senior Editor, PF, www.positive-feedback.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Home ownership is so much fun!

    When we bought our place we had identified some water seepage behind the fascia boards on our deck, even had a small holdback on purchase price for future repair. Last week we had the deck railing removed for repair, sandblasting, and powder-coating. It was severely rusted 'cause it wasn't made ready for the Great Pacific Northwet when originally made. That allowed the next contractor to remove the fascia boards to survey the extent of damage. Here's what we found. Great example of how to build a deck wrong...





    Worse, we have to demo the rock columns to get access to where the beams attach. F me! I guess my music room modifications will have to wait a while.

    Holy sh!T Bob, isn't that a fairly new house? Alot of work to be done there, man! Good luck with the repairs but I think it's going to be brutally expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSectorA View Post
    Holy sh!T Bob, isn't that a fairly new house? Alot of work to be done there, man! Good luck with the repairs but I think it's going to be brutally expensive.
    Yep, house is only 7 years old. Deck builder not the same as the home builder, so hopefully the main structure isn't enjoying the same fate. Up against the house all looks well. Damage appears to be isolated to the outer exposed portion of the deck. They completely wrapped the beams with a plastic flashing product, super stong glue. But they did some f'd up things too and didn't allow for moisture to escape, so once behind the pseudo flashing, water just hung around. Add some warm summer weather, some subterrainian termites ( they really like that dark wet environment) and Pacific Northwet winter rain, well, you can see the results. Add the cost of repair and powder coat for the railing, looks to be around $70K. That's more than I expected to pay to remodel the music room.

    Ah well, first world problems. Many sharks are dealing with issues far more important than I.

    Great thing though... Finally got the LPS tracking dialed in, and having played only a few albums so far, I can say the total system, with only 21 hours, sounds ohhhh so good. The REF10 paired with the REF75 and Alexias, now with the AMG/Benz feeding the Einstein Turntable's Choice, I'm just fucking thrilled! The sometimes strident sound I heard with the Sashas (v1) seems to have been a function of, IMHO, the titanium tweeter. I feel the leading edge of transients no longer has the slight sharpness I had heard before. A long way to go, but the musical joy is taking the edge off the home repairs. Sometimes you just gotta roll with what needs to be done, and thank God for the blessings you have.
    —Bob V.

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    Bob

    I guess I just don't understand how you got to this point with the house if it was financed at all. In Florida, also a moisture State, you would have had to have a bank approved WDO inspection before they signed off on the mortgage. Any wood damage, rot or structural damage would have to be repaired by the seller before the buyers mortgage would be approved. Is it different there or did you pay in total and bypass all of those safeguards? Just wondering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Bob

    I guess I just don't understand how you got to this point with the house if it was financed at all. In Florida, also a moisture State, you would have had to have a bank approved WDO inspection before they signed off on the mortgage. Any wood damage, rot or structural damage would have to be repaired by the seller before the buyers mortgage would be approved. Is it different there or did you pay in total and bypass all of those safeguards? Just wondering?
    Inspections here limited to main structure, So the deck not technically included. We did get a small discount towards future repairs when we purchased, and with only 7 yo house never imagined things could be as bad as shown.
    —Bob V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Heh, heh! I was sure to have performed the wine test before buying the carpet. I poured a nice Brunello on a sample of the carpet; even rubbed it in good 'cause the lanolin in the wool just had it beaded up and sitting there. Then with some pure water 95% of the stain came right up. After a little enzyme cleaner there was no trace of Brunello... passed the WAF.

    On the topic of wine, I joined a "rare washington wines" club recently. First time they opened the roster in 10 years. Now starting to get deliveries of various Washington wines I'd not have much access to as the limited production usually has these sold out before I learn about them.

    Its going to be a good autumn and winter. System finally coming together, and lots of wine to drink. Now I need to be sure there's an equal amount of new vinyl
    Bob with the wine i hope you did the ass grinding test too.......

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Bob a really nice room, now how can I fix this room
    Bit of mdf on the top of the structural top to bottom axis will work good there, probably coated matt black for sonics...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Yep, house is only 7 years old. Deck builder not the same as the home builder, so hopefully the main structure isn't enjoying the same fate. Up against the house all looks well. Damage appears to be isolated to the outer exposed portion of the deck. They completely wrapped the beams with a plastic flashing product, super stong glue. But they did some f'd up things too and didn't allow for moisture to escape, so once behind the pseudo flashing, water just hung around. Add some warm summer weather, some subterrainian termites ( they really like that dark wet environment) and Pacific Northwet winter rain, well, you can see the results. Add the cost of repair and powder coat for the railing, looks to be around $70K. That's more than I expected to pay to remodel the music room.

    Ah well, first world problems. Many sharks are dealing with issues far more important than I.

    Great thing though... Finally got the LPS tracking dialed in, and having played only a few albums so far, I can say the total system, with only 21 hours, sounds ohhhh so good. The REF10 paired with the REF75 and Alexias, now with the AMG/Benz feeding the Einstein Turntable's Choice, I'm just fucking thrilled! The sometimes strident sound I heard with the Sashas (v1) seems to have been a function of, IMHO, the titanium tweeter. I feel the leading edge of transients no longer has the slight sharpness I had heard before. A long way to go, but the musical joy is taking the edge off the home repairs. Sometimes you just gotta roll with what needs to be done, and thank God for the blessings you have.
    Sorry to see this, have had the same in buying a new place & it really blows chunks!!!!. All is good, let the V12 sing! Bound to fix most allergies. Congrats on a great looking room Bob, this really gave me a warm fuzzy to come back to this thread & see what you've been up to. Beautiful room,great components, gorgeous table, bliss.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkmouth View Post
    Bob with the wine i hope you did the ass grinding test too.......



    Bit of mdf on the top of the structural top to bottom axis will work good there, probably coated matt black for sonics...



    Sorry to see this, have had the same in buying a new place & it really blows chunks!!!!. All is good, let the V12 sing! Bound to fix most allergies. Congrats on a great looking room Bob, this really gave me a warm fuzzy to come back to this thread & see what you've been up to. Beautiful room,great components, gorgeous table, bliss.......
    What really blows, when we moved, I lost my office, my man cave and a decent HT room or family room...

    I was thinking of speakers in the areas next to the fireplace in the "enclosed" boxed area, it's about a 4 ft wide area and 7 ft high and 30" deep.

    And then we come to the office area. 11x11x11 with a 5 ft wide open door area into a 24x12x10 den area (which I can't touch). So it looks like a little man cave for my office and small 2 chl area. ( headphones or open back speakers like Emerald Physics ). Sometimes moving sucks, but But happy wife, happy life....
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    I know the feeling in my own stomache just looking at those pictures. I can't imagine the feeling in yours. Yeah, it looks expensive to fix, but I never would have guessed $70K. That's an ulcer, or a lawsuit.
    Vine, Vide, Velcro - I came, I saw, I stuck around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Home ownership is so much fun!

    When we bought our place we had identified some water seepage behind the fascia boards on our deck, even had a small holdback on purchase price for future repair. Last week we had the deck railing removed for repair, sandblasting, and powder-coating. It was severely rusted 'cause it wasn't made ready for the Great Pacific Northwet when originally made. That allowed the next contractor to remove the fascia boards to survey the extent of damage. Here's what we found. Great example of how to build a deck wrong...





    Worse, we have to demo the rock columns to get access to where the beams attach. F me! I guess my music room modifications will have to wait a while.

    Surprised the home inspection didn't catch it. Our inspector found using IR thermal imaging camera wet areas around our fascia, which are just now being replaced. We had the owner drop the price of the home and we handled the repairs.
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    Gulp! That's one bit of rot! Very sorry for you, especially after all the waiting. Hope you get this sorted soon.
    Chris

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    Sounds like live music?

    Yesterday in my home was crazy. Decorating outfit we'd hired to dress up our new home delivered new rugs and some furniture. They also have a unique approach... bring two large vans full of "stuff" including mirrors and a crap-load of knicks and knacks, and basically try to decorate your home in one fell-swoop. Three young men to hang pictures, move furniture, place rugs and cut rug pads, and three design types to create settings then ask what we like and don't like. If you don't like something, it goes back in the van to the store. Keep what you like. As both my wife and I have a taste for fine furnishings, but no ability to decorate, it was a great result. But insane--people moving all throughout the house moving shit around repeatedly, total chaos, and for 5 hours! There is a little ways to go but we're 95% 'decorated' upstairs.

    As for myself, it created a lot of anxiety, along with stone masons rebuilding the rock columns outside, and the carpenters working on the deck, other guys pouring some concrete, ugh!

    So I head downstairs to listen to some music. Of course, the floorplan is open so its distributed audio to the upper floor. One of the designers happens to also be a musician who plays keyboards. She comes downstairs and admits being shocked she didn't find me playing the piano. I had some George Winston on the turntable. She was convinced she was hearing a real piano being played.

    After the dust settled a bit, I invited her downstairs for 'just one song' and played the first cut, side A, of the Bluenote classic "Something Else". She sat in the prime position and I watched her eyes close and her toes begin tapping. When the song was over she stated "I've never heard anything like that, it seemed the musicians were right there in the room playing."

    That, to me, is one thing I love about having great kit... sharing, even if only briefly, what recorded music can sound like in your own home!
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    Think what a chic magnet your stereo would have been in college.
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    Oh yes, indeed, along with the little Alfa Romeo Spyder I drove for many years after I left the university. And if I could have my 57 year old brain in my mid-twenties body! Then I'd have been happy to find some magnetic chics.
    —Bob V.

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    Bob,

    The joys of construction in the Pacific Northwest. I've been involved in Custom home building over the years in L.A. ,
    Michigan, Manitoba, and now Vancouver. this is the worst climate for wood framed const. Ventilation is the key. Do they do
    rainscreen details in Oregon?
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    and Auditorium A23 cables.
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    Not sure what you mean "rainscreen?"

    But in regards the deck repair, we now have a 'system' for ensuring water that might ever get to the beams is channeled away and won't have anopportunity to stick around. Involves a lot of custom flashing, drainable wrap, firring strips, and WR Grace plastic flashing behind every joist hanger. Its a lot of overkill, given pressure treated gluelams which I think were not used originally. I think they used untreated gluelams and tried wrapping them in WRGrace plastic flashing, leaving no escape route for water.
    —Bob V.

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    My system: Etsuro MasterGold cartridge , AMG v12 turntable with ‘12JT turbo’ tonearm, bespoke LFD phono cable, CS Port C3EQ, dCS Rossini, Transparent Ref MM2 & Gen5 signal cables, Shunyata SigmaNR, AlphaNR,
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