Accuphase E-800

**jpeg** · October 27, 2019, 08:09 AM

New Accuphase integrated on the way..

**joeinid** · October 27, 2019, 09:32 AM

Wow!

Welcome to the forum.

**Hounddog** · October 27, 2019, 07:45 PM

I have the e650 and it is awesome. This one will likely change your listening world

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**dznutz** · October 27, 2019, 11:55 PM

I see what they were trying to do but it looks disproportionate

**Andromeda** · November 6, 2019, 08:47 AM

https://www.accuphase.co.jp/model/e-800.html

**joeinid** · November 6, 2019, 08:56 AM

I love Accuphase. Looks like a hefty piece.

**dznutz** · November 6, 2019, 01:45 PM

Looks like they have finally gone to a one piece faceplate

**bluegrassphile** · November 6, 2019, 09:26 PM

How much?

**Hounddog** · November 6, 2019, 09:28 PM

$21k.

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**joeinid** · November 6, 2019, 09:57 PM

USA pricing is insane. My E650 was half that used and I was able to add the dac and I love it. I’m sure the E800 will be amazing.

Originally Posted by Hounddog

$21k.

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**XV-1** · November 7, 2019, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by joeinid

USA pricing is insane. My E650 was half that used and I was able to add the dac and I love it. I’m sure the E800 will be amazing.

yep Joe - USA distributor making big fat margins.

The E650 in Japan is around US $ 7850. US retail pricing US $ 18,000. the amps must fly in first class seats

**Mike** · November 7, 2019, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by XV-1

yep Joe - USA distributor making big fat margins.

The E650 in Japan is around US $ 7850. US retail pricing US $ 18,000. the amps must fly in first class seats

We know the price in Japan is considerably less, but how is Accuphase priced around the world? Is it closer to the US retail pricing or closer to Japanese pricing? I always wondered this.

**XV-1** · November 7, 2019, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

We know the price in Japan is considerably less, but how is Accuphase priced around the world? Is it closer to the US retail pricing or closer to Japanese pricing? I always wondered this.

Every country in APAC including Australia is cheaper than the US retail prices.

I got my Accuphase c-37 phono stage for a very reasonable price in Australia.
Can't comment on Europe.

**Mike** · November 7, 2019, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by XV-1

Every country in APAC including Australia is cheaper than the US retail prices.

I got my Accuphase c-37 phono stage for a very reasonable price in Australia.
Can't comment on Europe.

Thanks. Curious about Europe pricing of Accuphase. Hopefully someone will chime in.

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**bluegrassphile** · November 7, 2019, 10:01 AM

Mike, I know it's easy for me to spend your money but the Accuphase line would be a real score for you. I know Luxman kind of covers that territory with it's integrated amps. But from what I've read they (Accuphase and Luxman) don't sound that much alike. Joe would be happy to loan you the coin, LOL!!

**Mike** · November 7, 2019, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by bluegrassphile

Mike, I know it's easy for me to spend your money but the Accuphase line would be a real score for you. I know Luxman kind of covers that territory with it's integrated amps. But from what I've read they (Accuphase and Luxman) don't sound that much alike. Joe would be happy to loan you the coin, LOL!!

No thanks. There’s a history there I would rather not discuss.

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**dznutz** · November 7, 2019, 03:20 PM

^ Please do tell!

I have attempted to contact them with 2 questions and not only was the owner not available but no one returned my calls. Eventually their secretary responded with what I would consider a less than thoroughly thought out reply.

It also shocks me that they charge so much for these products but yet cant be bothered to ship them to Dealers or customers any other way than by "ground" service. This is absurd.

**dznutz** · November 7, 2019, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by XV-1

yep Joe - USA distributor making big fat margins.

You sure? its possible that the Dealers simply have better margins to work with... although realistically, that's doubtful.

**Shadowfax** · November 7, 2019, 03:46 PM

ebay also has Luxman Integrateds selling from Japan way cheaper than US pricing. Not just Accuphase.

**dznutz** · November 7, 2019, 04:01 PM

Buying 100v gear for our market would be insane for someone to do... especially for these prices

**Mike** · November 7, 2019, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by dznutz

You sure? its possible that the Dealers simply have better margins to work with... although realistically, that's doubtful.

Nope. Not the case.

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**Mike** · November 7, 2019, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by dznutz

^ Please do tell!

I have attempted to contact them with 2 questions and not only was the owner not available but no one returned my calls. Eventually their secretary responded with what I would consider a less than thoroughly thought out reply.

It also shocks me that they charge so much for these products but yet cant be bothered to ship them to Dealers or customers any other way than by "ground" service. This is absurd.

PM sent.

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**Gene** · November 7, 2019, 04:28 PM

If you buy "gray market" Accuphase do it at your own peril. You will lose all warranty coverage.

**dznutz** · November 7, 2019, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Gene

If you buy "gray market" Accuphase do it at your own peril. You will lose all warranty coverage.

There is always a way to receive warranty service, no magic there. The real concern is spending real money on a product that is not built and designed to work in your region. Your risk of failure rises, and your resale value plummets. Not a great idea.

**Billion$Baby** · November 7, 2019, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by dznutz

There is always a way to receive warranty service, no magic there. The real concern is spending real money on a product that is not built and designed to work in your region. Your risk of failure rises, and your resale value plummets. Not a great idea.

Sorry but you don't know what your talking about in regards to Accuphase gear. It has UNIVERSAL Voltage inside of every one of their products. All that is required is moving a jumper cable from one place to another. I have the Diagram. I have a buddy in New Jersey that travels to Japan twice a year on business. He always bring back Accuphase gear...goes to a Pro Audio Shop in Brooklyn, NY and has them switch the jumper cable for peanuts. Its like a 15 minute job from start to finish. This is why AUDIO CUBES (in NEW YORK CITY) does so much business with 100V Accuphase gear and other brands where there is Universal Voltage transformers inside. Audio Cubes has a nice discount BUT if you can get it direct from Japan the price is DIRT CHEAP. A E650 you can get for less than $6000 USA Dollars and that's at a 20% Discount from AUDIO UNION in Japan. They have MANY Locations. Sure there is no warranty....how many people do you know that have had defective Accuphase gear. None of my buddies pieces have ever needed any service of any kind in all these years. I think its a good gamble.

**Billion$Baby** · November 7, 2019, 06:48 PM

Here is an example. The E-800 when available here has a $21,000 MSRP. At AUDIO UNION in Japan the MSRP is just under 1.1 Million Yen. With a 20% Discount that brings the price to $7887 USA Dollars.

**dznutz** · November 7, 2019, 06:56 PM

^ Listen, you can do whatever you want with your money. But if you think a mucked around and disassembled 100V unit has the same value as a factory unit built to 120V spec then you are sorely mistaken. In your scenario you will certainly not receive any sort of warranty work on our continent no matter how hard you try. Oddly enough I dont see you owning any Accuphase gear, interesting.

**Paul** · November 7, 2019, 07:02 PM

Well. I do not think we can blame no one in this scenario, I am in the car business and you know how many Chinese people come and buy those hi-end cars due to price difference here vs their country? For example, as Camaro, it's more than double in China vs North America. So it is what it is

**Billion$Baby** · November 7, 2019, 07:05 PM

Disassembled? The parts are already inside. Switching the cable from 1 location to another is hardly rocket science. Already fully aware there is no warranty here in the USA. As far as resale value....How much cheaper do you think an E-800 would go for than the $7900 you paid for it? You certainly wouldn't lose much if anything....maybe 1K at most. Id lose a lot more buying the same piece here in the USA at an insane price of 16K-17K and then having to dump it for 12K-13K.

I don't own any Accuphase gear because I don't listen to lightweight music which is what Accuphase excels at. Too polite for me and my taste.

**jdandy** · November 7, 2019, 07:13 PM

A Buck/Boost single phase transformer can also be used to supply 100VAC components from a 120VAC outlet. Cost is less than $200.00.

**myjazz123** · November 7, 2019, 07:15 PM

The accuphase E-800 may end being a great integrated.
But the distributor mark up is insane. I would never buy product marked up that much, no matter how exclusive it is.
I wish that luxman, pass or gryphon will come up with class A reference integrated with at least 50w 8 ohm and double at 4 ohm
so it can drive wider range of speakers.

**Mike** · November 7, 2019, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by myjazz123

The accuphase E-800 may end being a great integrated.
But the distributor mark up is insane. I would never buy product marked up that much, no matter how exclusive it is.
I wish that luxman, pass or gryphon will come up with class A reference integrated with at least 50w 8 ohm and double at 4 ohm
so it can drive wider range of speakers.

The Luxman 590 benches at 83 watts of class A. See the measurements in HiFi News. They said it was woefully under spec’d. Very conservative. I’ve had one and it drove the piss out of everything.

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**Shadowfax** · November 7, 2019, 09:34 PM

This does not look to be anything new. Look at this snippet from 2012

03-18-2012 5:41pm

Thank you everyone for your responses. I read some similar threads and Accuphase seems to be the most favored although Luxman should be shown no disrespect. I got a quote on a new Accuphase e-360 for 10 grand. Whew, I certainly can't afford a new one so I'll be searching for something used.

03-19-2012 3:44am

Wow, that's over double the price of a new E-360 in Japan. Thanks!

**Gene** · November 8, 2019, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Billion$Baby

I don't own any Accuphase gear because I don't listen to lightweight music which is what Accuphase excels at. Too polite for me and my taste.

You obviously don't know what the hell your talking about.

**Gene** · November 8, 2019, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by jdandy

A Buck/Boost single phase transformer can also be used to supply 100VAC components from a 120VAC outlet. Cost is less than $200.00.

Sure..you could do this but think about what you would lose...no warranty for any problem. Interesting that you don't suggest the same solutions on another forum where you moderate....
hmm... maybe because the owner is an Accuphase dealer and your thick as thieves?

**Billion$Baby** · November 8, 2019, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Gene

You obviously don't know what the hell your talking about.

Guess Im in good company then

**dznutz** · November 8, 2019, 03:17 PM

^ Because he knows he would be banned immediately I think

**Gene** · November 8, 2019, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Billion$Baby

Guess Im in good company then

Sure ..the world is full of would be know it all's and experts who dont know jack!

**Billion$Baby** · November 8, 2019, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Gene

Sure ..the world is full of would be know it all's and experts who dont know jack!

Out of respect for Mike and Joe I am going to keep this civil. I never claimed I was an expert, know it all etc. Far from it. I only know what my ears have heard and liked. I have heard 3 different Accuphase INT's in the past few years and its not the sound I prefer for my musical tastes. Feel the same way about Audio Note. They don't "Rock" to my liking. There is no right or wrong with anybody's opinion about what they prefer. If I had your Ears and musical taste Im sure I would LOVE Accuphase. I know at least half a dozen people who owned Accuphase gear and they ended up ditching it for Luxman, Simaudio, Shindo, Doshi and other brands I cant remember.

**jdandy** · November 8, 2019, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Gene

Sure..you could do this but think about what you would lose...no warranty for any problem. Interesting that you don't suggest the same solutions on another forum where you moderate....
hmm... maybe because the owner is an Accuphase dealer and your thick as thieves?

Gene.......My post was simply a suggestion for those interested in being able to control supply voltages, nothing more. I would have no issue posting the same information on any forum if the discussion turned to supply voltage issues. It is self evident there would be no warranty on 100VAC Accuphase components sold in the USA. Doh!

The remainder of your comments are uncalled for, but not surprising. The Internet is run amok with self appointed keyboard generals. We don't know each other, so I don't have a clue where your rancor is coming from. I do find it interesting that in your nearly four and a half years as an Audio Shark member with a grand total of 105 posts you decided I was important enough to spur you to increase your forum contributions. It's good to know I still have the ability to motivate people.

**jdandy** · November 8, 2019, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by dznutz

^ Because he knows he would be banned immediately I think

dznuts.......I feel honored that in your three and a half years with Audio Shark you became motivated enough to suddenly include me in one of your 117 posts. Thanks for piling on. It's great to have followers, even ones that don't like me for whatever reason. It seems to me you are holding on to a pointless grudge for no good reason. I am curious why that is.

Quite frankly, I believe my nearly 3400 posts in four and a half years of membership on Audio Shark have been positive thoughtful contributions to this forum and speak for themselves. I enjoy Audio Shark. It's a great audio forum, and I am glad to have made some friends here. Unfortunately, it is a shame there always seems to be people looking to bring someone else down. Such a useless waste of energy in my opinion.

**joeinid** · November 8, 2019, 05:55 PM

Everyone, please keep this civil. I don't like the sniping and innuendos. Please don't use this as a place to settle grievances or try and make statements.

**joeinid** · November 8, 2019, 05:58 PM

Hey Dan,

Any idea if something like this takes into account the Hz differences, 50Hz vs 60Hz ? I'm just curious if you or anyone knows.

Originally Posted by jdandy

A Buck/Boost single phase transformer can also be used to supply 100VAC components from a 120VAC outlet. Cost is less than $200.00.

**jdandy** · November 8, 2019, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by joeinid

Hey Dan,

Any idea if something like this takes into account the Hz differences, 50Hz vs 60Hz ? I'm just curious if you or anyone knows.

Joe.......These transformers are built to operate at 50/60Hz. Here is a link to Larson Electronics website. They have a transformer for almost any voltage and phase.

https://www.larsonelectronics.com/ca...SAAEgL4Z_D_BwE

**dznutz** · November 8, 2019, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by jdandy

dznuts.......I feel honored that in your three and a half years with Audio Shark you became motivated enough to suddenly include me in one of your 117 posts. Thanks for piling on. It's great to have followers, even ones that don't like me for whatever reason. It seems to me you are holding on to a pointless grudge for no good reason. I am curious why that is.

Quite frankly, I believe my nearly 3400 posts in four and a half years of membership on Audio Shark have been positive thoughtful contributions to this forum and speak for themselves. I enjoy Audio Shark. It's a great audio forum, and I am glad to have made some friends here. Unfortunately, it is a shame there always seems to be people looking to bring someone else down. Such a useless waste of energy in my opinion.

Hi, I dont know you but I do enjoy your posts.

**jdandy** · November 8, 2019, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by dznutz

Hi, I dont know you but I do enjoy your posts.

dznutz.......Thank you for this response. It is appreciated. Peace.

**Mordante** · December 24, 2019, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

We know the price in Japan is considerably less, but how is Accuphase priced around the world? Is it closer to the US retail pricing or closer to Japanese pricing? I always wondered this.

As far as I can tell the E-800 is about 15k euro in the Netherlands

**Andik777** · January 7, 2020, 10:27 PM

Anyone had the opportunity to listen to the E800?

**Gene** · January 11, 2020, 11:02 AM

I meant no disrespect to Jdandy; A long time forum contributor who's posts I have also enjoyed in the past.
I came across as rather rough in my criticism. Blame it on my enthusiasm for the brand and one too may Maker's Mark.

**Mike** · January 11, 2020, 12:09 PM

Now Gene, was this you?

https://www.wnky.com/2-gm-employees-...bowling-green/

I would love to see the video of this!

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