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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    So clearly the only thing you have to add is that Accuphase is too expensive in the US?

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    Well here is Jay's Audio Lab review of the E-800 (actually my ex E-800)

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  5. #155

    Re: Accuphase E-800

    And thats exactly the condition you can expect your new Integrated to arrive in from the Distributor, embarrassing.

  6. #156

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    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    And thats exactly the condition you can expect your new Integrated to arrive in from the Distributor, embarrassing.
    Well the box anyway.
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    When paying this kind of money the box matters just as much as the component inside... to me at least.

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    The outer box quality certainly leaves a lot to be desired. Inner boxes are more than adequate. I guess they could ship on a pallet but that creates some challenges for residential delivery.
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    Interesting.
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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    In my opinion, an overly critical unbalanced review that does not make sense -- starts out with saying it is a warmer sound but still has all the details and other audiophile attributes. I feel that his impressions were driven by the disproportionately high price of the component in the US (which I agree is a big problem). It also highlights the subjective nature of this hobby where 10 people can rarely agree on anything as we all hear differently.
    I do not have personal experience with the Luxman 590 mk2; so cannot comment on its sound. I have heard only good things about it.
    I do have extensive experience with Accuphase A70, which is a 60 watt Class A amp that I have owned for the past ~ 3 years. It sound sublime and easily drives my Vienna Acoustics The Music speakers. No lack of power here and the bass is all that it needs to be. I am a little puzzled about the reviewer talking about a lack of power.
    I compared it at length to a Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated and decided to keep the Accuphase as it edged out the Gryphon in my system. Just a smoother, more refined, easier to listen to at length sound (the difference was subtle but there).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreginNH View Post
    Well here is Jay's Audio Lab review of the E-800 (actually my ex E-800)

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    In my opinion, an overly critical unbalanced review that does not make sense -- starts out with saying it is a warmer sound but still has all the details and other audiophile attributes. I feel that his impressions were driven by the disproportionately high price of the component in the US (which I agree is a big problem). It also highlights the subjective nature of this hobby where 10 people can rarely agree on anything as we all hear differently.
    I do not have personal experience with the Luxman 590 mk2; so cannot comment on its sound. I have heard only good things about it.
    I do have extensive experience with Accuphase A70, which is a 60 watt Class A amp that I have owned for the past ~ 3 years. It sound sublime and easily drives my Vienna Acoustics The Music speakers. No lack of power here and the bass is all that it needs to be. I am a little puzzled about the reviewer talking about a lack of power.
    I compared it at length to a Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated and decided to keep the Accuphase as it edged out the Gryphon in my system. Just a smoother, more refined, easier to listen to at length sound (the difference was subtle but there).
    Anshul
    Hi Anshul, I agree with your statement. I am using Accuphase A75 with accuphase pre now and these replace Diablo 300. And the sound characteristics are as what you mentioned.

    Having said that, I have not listened to Luxman well-regarded c900u with m900u. And I hope can listen to the luxman combo in near future.

    Here in Singapore, the price of accuphase components are less marked up than in US and US RRP of accuphase left a lot to be desired.


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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Just my opinion, not an absolute. I had the opportunity to listen to a Accuphase E-800 today driving a pair of MBL 101E speakers. I've listened to the MBL 101E speakers over 50 times with several amplifiers. It's my friend system, but I'm so familiar with his system I consider it my 2nd system. I've heard the MBLs with the Parasound JC1+ and JC5, Jeff Rowlnad 725s, PS Audio BHK 300 mono-amps, and several more. Today, with the E-800 the MBLs sound was detailed, but not as bright as I've heard before with some amplifiers. The bass was tight and the soundstage very 3-dimensional. Maybe one day I'll bring it home and compare it to my Rowland 625 S2 amplifier with Corus preamp driving Monitor Audio PL500 II speakers. Totally different speakers may yield different results.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    The freakin problem in the US is the cost to the consumer. I think the distributor is just out to lunch, and if he would offer lower prices, he could way more than make up for it on volume. Apologies for beating this dead horse and taking the thread off topic (yet again), but this just canít be said enough.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hounddog View Post
    The freakin problem in the US is the cost to the consumer. I think the distributor is just out to lunch, and if he would offer lower prices, he could way more than make up for it on volume. Apologies for beating this dead horse and taking the thread off topic (yet again), but this just canít be said enough.


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    I totally agree. In order to arrive at the Canadian MSRP, you have to get at least 30% off US pricing.
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    Worth every penny, Canadians are just luckier. How many times have I had to pay 30% more here in Canada because we are a tiny market compared to the US.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Price aside, I think Accuphase makes great sounding amps. Iím on my third one and very pleased with the workmanship, appearance, and sound of Accuphase.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Ditto - same here on quality and sound, which I just love.


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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    Worth every penny, Canadians are just luckier. How many times have I had to pay 30% more here in Canada because we are a tiny market compared to the US.
    So true. We pay everything else lot more here than state. sigh
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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    So true. We pay everything else lot more here than state. sigh
    Unfortunately true for most companies that have distribute to Canada using a US distributor: even Luxman is slightly more in Canada than the US even as they are trying to keep them at par - the Luxman L509X is slightly more than the Accuphase E480 in Canada....In Canada Accuphase retail has been very fair.

    Of course try buying Pass or McIntosh in the Germany...
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    anyone try a e-800 or e650 with the accuphase PS510/520/530? the brochure says that the PS wasn't designed for high idle current amplifiers

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    The power draw of my E-650 is 154 watts as measured by my Kill-A-Watt meter. Thatís comfortably within spec of any of the 500 series Accuphase power conditioners.

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    According to Accuphase, the E650 draws almost 170 watts at idle. The PS Audio products are noisey to begin with but they really begin to buzz as you draw some serious current. The PS1230 was dead silent at idle and while drawing just over 4 amps with a pair of 28B3ís. The Accuphase products are designed very well.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Iím likely not supposed to say this, but I have two 1230s for sale in the marketplace ....


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