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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Nope, not me! Although Ive done more than 25mph over!
    Also..My beard (if I had one) would be way too gray!
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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    Nope, not me! Although Ive done more than 25mph over!
    Also..My beard (if I had one) would be way too gray!
    Ha!


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    Not to beat the dead horse again, but I always wonder if Luxman can sell products outside of Japan with similar prices in Japan, why canít Accuphase? Itís a shame really as Accuphase makes superb gear.

    Also, itís quite rare to see Accuphase and Magico together. Iím very intrigued about the sound Gene is getting from his S7ís. Very nice system BTW, Gene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Not to beat the dead horse again, but I always wonder if Luxman can sell products outside of Japan with similar prices in Japan, why can’t Accuphase? It’s a shame really as Accuphase makes superb gear.

    Also, it’s quite rare to see Accuphase and Magico together. I’m very intrigued about the sound Gene is getting from his S7’s. Very nice system BTW, Gene.
    Why don't you call the US Distributor and ask? Or, you could simply know the right people and get one for considerably less than Luxman

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    I still have a soft spot for Accuphase.
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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    I agree that even though I probably paid more than was necessary, the tremendous enjoyment I get from Accuphase more than makes up for the mark-up.
    Whats one supposed to do? I have to pay what they say it costs and i'm not prepared to go though all the potential hassle of importing 110v models from Japan
    and probably degrade the sound with a step-up transformer and loose all warranty coverage.
    I'll swallow hard,hold my nose and pay because it's been ( and probably will continue to be) more than worth it.
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    I am not referring to importing 110V units

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    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    Why don't you call the US Distributor and ask? Or, you could simply know the right people and get one for considerably less than Luxman
    Sounds like you know the right people. Do tell.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    All Accuphase gear has multi-Voltage abilities included. No need for a Step-up Transformer. You just have to switch the jumper cables around inside.
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    $21,000 is quite a bit of money for an integrated amp IMO. A certain dealer (who shall remain nameless) is already telling us to expect a price increase and most of this year's allocation of E-800s have been spoken for.

    I guess if you are loyal to brand, price is not relevant. I've owned a couple of Accuphase intreated amps - nice gear, well built. I prefer Luxman and think it offers better value.
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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    For Half of that you can get one from Audio Cubes in NYC. For about 1/3 of that you can get it from Japan.
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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    If I'm not mistaken, Luxman dropped prices on their top line gear about 25% when they went from an independent US distributor to company-owned US distribution several years ago. That said, I think I'm also hearing that Accuphase's US distributor may charge a higher markup than Accuphase distributors in other geos (?).

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    Correct GSOphile. The main factor is the US importer's approach to business.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, Luxman dropped prices on their top line gear about 25% when they went from an independent US distributor to company-owned US distribution several years ago. That said, I think I'm also hearing that Accuphase's US distributor may charge a higher markup than Accuphase distributors in other goes (?).
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    I honestly donít know the details but if what mentioned is true, this US Accuphase distributor is solely responsible for preventing many interested parties to enjoy the Accuphase gears in the US.

    Iím not sure what his or her calculation shows, in terms of comparison between less quantity with super high margin vs. more quantity with lower margin. But decision to go that route is an insult from consumer point of view.

    Maybe, some of you will say to me that I have no idea what Iím talking about, which is true. But Iím waiting to be enlightened.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    The details (pricing) are right on the internet for anybody to see. Here is the link to Audio Union in Japan https://translate.google.com/transla...p/&prev=search Just convert YEN to USD.

    Here is the price on AUDIO CUBES in New York City ($10,400) https://audiocubes.com/collections/amplifiers?page=2
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreginNH View Post
    $21,000 is quite a bit of money for an integrated amp IMO. A certain dealer (who shall remain nameless) is already telling us to expect a price increase and most of this year's allocation of E-800s have been spoken for.

    I guess if you are loyal to brand, price is not relevant. I've owned a couple of Accuphase intreated amps - nice gear, well built. I prefer Luxman and think it offers better value.
    This is the same Dealer that banned me for raising issue with the fact the Axiss ships all Accuphase gear by Ground Service, that is a slap in the face when paying this kind of money. Its also true that Accuphase NEVER made any power cables... they were all knockoffs, yet he was selling them proudly.

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    Another question is why Accuphase is okay with this?

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by GreginNH View Post
    $21,000 is quite a bit of money for an integrated amp IMO. A certain dealer (who shall remain nameless) is already telling us to expect a price increase and most of this year's allocation of E-800s have been spoken for.

    I guess if you are loyal to brand, price is not relevant. I've owned a couple of Accuphase intreated amps - nice gear, well built. I prefer Luxman and think it offers better value.
    Why should that dealer remain "nameless" considering we all know who it is (At least to those that are members here and also that "other" forum, of which there are quite a few) and although there has been mention of a sell-out, never a peep about a price increase. Not sure why you would have a price increase when it just came on the market.
    Just to keep a perspective there are many examples of high-end integrated amps selling for far more than 21k. So,really no big deal here.
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    I was told by said dealer yesterday that there WAS going to be a price increase. Just reporting the news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    Just to keep a perspective there are many examples of high-end integrated amps selling for far more than 21k. So,really no big deal here.
    I think the point being made is not about the absolute price or the expensiveness of it, but more than 2x price difference between geoís. Other high end integrated amps that are priced $21k in North America are still probably approximately $21k in Europe or Asia. This one is not.

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    I'd much rather be discussing the excellent engineering, build and sound quality of the Accuphase, but that's probably not going to happen.
    Way too many bellyaching, penny pinching audiophile's getting in the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post

    I'd much rather be discussing the excellent engineering, build and sound quality of the Accuphase, but that's probably not going to happen.
    Way too many bellyaching, penny pinching audiophile's getting in the way.
    If you look at my posts, I donít complain about high end price 99.9% of the time. This is really not about penny pinching.

    If you can stomach >100% mark up (more like >150% really if you include the general 50% dealer margin of high end), all the more power to you. I wouldnít be able to.

    For example, I absolutely love my Gryphon Diablo 300, but I wonít buy it for $32,000 knowing it can be had for $16,000 in Denmark.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    My Accuphase cost me exactly what my dealer (he's the one who will remain "nameless') here in the US said it would (less a generous discount). I could care less that some fellow in Japan got it for less. Good for them. That's what he pays there.
    Now..can we get on to giving and hearing opinions about Accuphase sound quality...which is a very real thing to discuss and stop all the whining about pricing or do we continue to beat a very dead horse,imo. Again...probally not going to happen.

    God!.. how i wish there was a Accuphase forum for owners only!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    My Accuphase cost me exactly what my dealer (he's the one who will remain "nameless') here in the US said it would (less a generous discount). I could care less that some fellow in Japan got it for less. Good for them. That's what he pays there.
    Now..can we get on to giving and hearing opinions about Accuphase sound quality...which is a very real thing to discuss and stop all the whining about pricing or do we continue to beat a very dead horse,imo. Again...probally not going to happen.

    God!.. how i wish there was a Accuphase forum for owners only!
    No one is preventing you from discussing Accuphase sound quality. You can continue ask/discuss/opine however you want. People who has knowledge of what you say will reply you.

    If you donít like pricing posts, just ignore them. No one is pointing a gun to the head asking your opinion. This is a public forum, not a family or friends whatsapp chat.

    BTW I like Accuphase. Never owned any but few times I heard I think they sound great.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by Billion$Baby View Post
    Here is the price on AUDIO CUBES in New York City ($10,400) https://audiocubes.com/collections/amplifiers?page=2
    these prices are amazing!
    gives you a perfect choice of buying at half prices without service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    God!.. how i wish there was a Accuphase forum for owners only!
    lol, sorry.
    accuphase was my nr1 brand when i was a boy. really dreamt about that stuff.
    i did own the ps 12xx, didnt do anything so eventually i ve sold it.
    that said, in switzerland it is a big brand and much more available than solution or ch precision, goldmund, nagra etc.
    i know many people who owns accuphase and like it a lot. the piega people for example love it. it is a perfect combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    No one is preventing you from discussing Accuphase sound quality. You can continue ask/discuss/opine however you want. People who has knowledge of what you say will reply you.

    If you don’t like pricing posts, just ignore them. No one is pointing a gun to the head asking your opinion. This is a public forum, not a family or friends whatsapp chat.

    BTW I like Accuphase. Never owned any but few times I heard I think they sound great.
    I've given my opinion on other forums. Kind of hard to break through all the noise and outrage from the price obsessed fanatics foaming at the mouth.
    I start to talk sound quality and lo and behold it quickly degenerates in to a price free-for- all.
    No thanks.
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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by Billion$Baby View Post
    The details (pricing) are right on the internet for anybody to see. Here is the link to Audio Union in Japan https://translate.google.com/transla...p/&prev=search Just convert YEN to USD.

    Here is the price on AUDIO CUBES in New York City ($10,400) https://audiocubes.com/collections/amplifiers?page=2
    Are these US voltage machines?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Are these US voltage machines?


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    Nope. Japanese voltage with virtually no resale value in the US.

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    From the FAQ Section of Audio Cubes

    Are products carried by AudioCubes Japanese models (100V)? Will I be able to operate them?
    This question is often asked by customers so please please note the answer: YES.
    All items requiring the use of electricity will come with a high-end matching Japan-made transformer, free with your order. There has been no report from our customers with sound degradation nor short-term/long-term issues affecting your equipment. Some products may be able to configured to operate in your local voltage. Please see the product page for availability and information.

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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by GreginNH View Post
    Nope. Japanese voltage with virtually no resale value in the US.
    With all due respect that's completely inaccurate. The Grey Market models sell USED here in the USA for slightly less than what they cost Brand New in Japan. My friend in Jersey has dumped numerous ones on EBAY when new models comes out. Last one I remember him selling on EBAY was a E-600 and he got 4500 for it. Didn't take long to sell either. Believe that was slightly more than he paid for it in Japan. No step-up transformer needed.
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    Re: Accuphase E-800

    Quote Originally Posted by GreginNH View Post
    From the FAQ Section of Audio Cubes

    Are products carried by AudioCubes Japanese models (100V)? Will I be able to operate them?
    This question is often asked by customers so please please note the answer: YES.
    All items requiring the use of electricity will come with a high-end matching Japan-made transformer, free with your order. There has been no report from our customers with sound degradation nor short-term/long-term issues affecting your equipment. Some products may be able to configured to operate in your local voltage. Please see the product page for availability and information.
    Interesting. Thanks. How does everyone feel about this? I wonder why Accuphase hasnít shut them down. Weird.


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    Probably because they don't care or its simply not worth their time as its the US and Canadian Distributors issue. I would never buy a 100V unit... I guarantee it wont be factory sealed and who knows its history or whats been tinkered with it.

    I really do believe their gear is engineered phenomenally well... they are as dead silent mechanically while turned on as any other piece of gear thats turned off. That is impressive, no transformer hum or buzz at the case or at the speakers. This takes effort and serious quality control. Would I buy any at the US pricing? NO... but I can certainly see why they sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    I absolutely love Accuphase
    Accuphase gives alot of love right back, Joe. Prices be damned!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    Probably because they don't care or its simply not worth their time as its the US and Canadian Distributors issue. I would never buy a 100V unit... I guarantee it wont be factory sealed and who knows its history or whats been tinkered with it.

    I really do believe their gear is engineered phenomenally well... they are as dead silent mechanically while turned on as any other piece of gear thats turned off. That is impressive, no transformer hum or buzz at the case or at the speakers. This takes effort and serious quality control. Would I buy any at the US pricing? NO... but I can certainly see why they sell.
    Exactly... An just try to get Accuphase to do ANY work on it... Won't touch it with a ten foot pole!
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    Exactly... An just try to get Accuphase to do ANY work on it... Won't touch it with a ten foot pole!
    Yep that's true. The statement about the boxes not being sealed or tinkered with is ridiculous thou. Everything Audio Cubes sells is just like buying in Japan except your gonna pay a few grand more. Ive known many Accuphase owners...none have ever needed any service done on their gear to my knowledge. If one is going to gamble on a piece of Grey Market gear Accuphase is probably the safest bet.
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    Yep that's true. The statement about the boxes not being sealed or tinkered with is ridiculous thou. Everything Audio Cubes sells is just like buying in Japan except your gonna pay a few grand more. Ive known many Accuphase owners...none have ever needed any service done on their gear to my knowledge. If one is going to gamble on a piece of Grey Market gear Accuphase is probably the safest bet.
    ^ Absolutely agree.

    The way I look at it, using E-800 for an example, rolling the dice for $10,400 can result in 2 scenarios.

    1. I flip it after few months/years at half the price, which I honestly donít think itís that hard. This could cost slightly more expensive than buying/using/selling other high end brands. But it could also be similar.

    2. Somehow my unit dies, canít find someone to fix and I lose all of $10,400. But then again, youíd have to pay $10,600 more out front if you buy it at $21,000 for service and whatnot. Besides, is it guaranteed to recuperate at least half of $21,000 when the time comes and you sell. Probably not because, with units at $5,000 on the used market, it just wonít sell at $10,000. I do acknowledge that there may be a nice discount you could be getting buying at $21,000.

    Either way you lose, just like many other high end brands. Everybody is different, but I do get antsy if the cost Iím looking at is at a level where I donít feel too bad of losing (only somewhat lol). Iím very interested in comparing E-800 vs. Diablo 300 in my system.

    Or...forget all this and just continue ďpenny pinchingĒ for a set of M2s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billion$Baby View Post
    Yep that's true. The statement about the boxes not being sealed or tinkered with is ridiculous thou. Everything Audio Cubes sells is just like buying in Japan except your gonna pay a few grand more. Ive known many Accuphase owners...none have ever needed any service done on their gear to my knowledge. If one is going to gamble on a piece of Grey Market gear Accuphase is probably the safest bet.
    Dude, if I didnt know any better I would say you worked for this Audiocubes place. Lets get off this whole “Buy 100v Accupahse” bandwagon youre on.

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    Dude, if I didnt know any better I would say you worked for this Audiocubes place. Lets get off this whole “Buy 100v Accupahse” bandwagon youre on.
    Been comfortably retired since I was 44....that was 12 years ago. Sorry to disillusion you. Go back to your conspiracy theories somewhere else
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    Been comfortably retired since I was 44....that was 12 years ago. Sorry to disillusion you. Go back to your conspiracy theories somewhere else
    Im sure we are all super impressed with your perceived and advertised success.

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    Im sure we are all super impressed with your perceived and advertised success.
    Well it beats advertising in public what a simpleton one is.
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    Probably because they don't care or its simply not worth their time as its the US and Canadian Distributors issue. I would never buy a 100V unit... I guarantee it wont be factory sealed and who knows its history or whats been tinkered with it.

    I really do believe their gear is engineered phenomenally well... they are as dead silent mechanically while turned on as any other piece of gear thats turned off. That is impressive, no transformer hum or buzz at the case or at the speakers. This takes effort and serious quality control. Would I buy any at the US pricing? NO... but I can certainly see why they sell.
    Is this guarantee based on any actual first hand knowledge or???

    I have bought a SUT and cartridge from audiocubes in the past - both were factory packed.
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    I didn't think you had to have actual knowledge to spout off on this or any forum topic or at least it doesn't appear that way.
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    Stirring up trouble and just being plain ignorant seem to be his M.O. Don't know how Audio Cubes would stay in business for 20 years (In New York City no less) by selling Open Box...aka tinkered with... items.

    Where in any of my comments did I say I was successful at anything? I left the work force to become the Full Time Caregiver 24/7 365 Days a year for my Dad (For several years) who suffered from Dementia, Parkinsons and Type 2 Diabetes. I threw away my 20+ Year career in I/T so my Dad wouldn't have to be put in a nursing home. If I was successful at anything I hope I was successful for the most part at being a good son.
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    It's a shame that we cannot have respectful commentary and debate without personal attacks. I know are an OCD fueled group of individuals with strong beliefs regarding aspects of our hobby but that does not take away from the fact we should be civil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XV-1 View Post
    Is this guarantee based on any actual first hand knowledge or???

    I have bought a SUT and cartridge from audiocubes in the past - both were factory packed.
    No, clearly "guarantee" was improperly used here. Just wanted my strong opinion on the matter to come through.

    As everyone knows these electronics are serialized. Every successful Manufacturer I know of has territory restrictions that they enforce. I don't imagine that Audiocubes, who is not an Authorized Accuphase Dealer in North America can continue to source, import and sell equipment not destined for this Market, as a full time business no less. I would imagine the serial numbers are either removed, modified or replaced to avoid the source in Japan, or elsewhere, being exposed. Even if Accuphase doesnt care Im sure if Axiss or Audio Alliance contacted them with this complaint and serial numbers they would act.

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