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May 19, 2020, 08:28 AM #1
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Media Room.... turntable integration
I'm redesigning my man cave and having a hard time deciding where to place the turntable on my component rack.
I used to have it on top shelf.. and it's interesting I don't see any pictures really with people's media room having a turntable I find that is very odd...
For me it must be at chest level or thereabouts...
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May 19, 2020, 10:25 AM #2
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May 19, 2020, 11:19 AM #3
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May 19, 2020, 11:57 AM #4
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will be interesting to hear the gold standard of tt placement here ;-)
anyone placing their tt on a lower shelf? would be nice to hear how much clearance to the shelf above is workable for changing LPs and in general how much of a PINTA this is versus the top shelf?viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | almarro a318b + air tight atc-5 (phono) | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + diy transport + roon rock
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May 19, 2020, 03:26 PM #5
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Re: Media Room.... turntable integration
The PITA factor appears to increase with age..
Thank you
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May 19, 2020, 06:32 PM #6
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I always feel uncomfortable when I see a TT placed on high shelve or rack.
My gut feel is the lower the TT the more isolated it becomes to vibration.
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May 19, 2020, 08:09 PM #7
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Re: Media Room.... turntable integration
My turntable is top shelf, LOL Figuratively, on this forum that is arguable. Literally, my stand is tall, my turntable is on the top shelf which is about my chin. People are always asking me how I use it that high, it just works for me. I've always used the top shelf and the stands always ended up being high.
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May 19, 2020, 09:22 PM #8
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Re: Media Room.... turntable integration
well, ok. my three tt's are on the top shelf. but it's not that simple.
2 issues with rack height and turntables. one is very obvious.
---your turntable needs to be at a height where you can most comfortably see what you are doing while setting up a cartridge, and where you can have proper sight lines. and if it's too low then as you age you will less and less want to take proper care. it will also depend on your expectations as to set-up perfection. my tone arm designer (a local friend) many times comments how easy and natural my turntable height is for him to easily tweak the set-up.
i know people who's back or neck needs a week to recover from setting up their cartridge. life is too short. something in that equation....gives.
---and generalizing about lower tt height sounds better misses the mark. you have to factor your floor construction, proximity to your speakers, how dynamic and how much deep bass your speakers produce, the rack type (isolating or solid), and your turntable plinth design......is it suspended or not? a tall solid, high mass, rack on a concrete floor will yield much better results than a cheap low rack on a suspended wood floor. better yet; your tall rack is mass loaded, and maybe you use a Stacore air suspension shelf, or better yet, and Taiko Tana active shelf.......and height no longer matters.......at.......all......as far as performance.
some racks are very solid when they get taller, some are not. it.....depends.
btw; there are no rules, tt fun is where you find it, and everyone has a different set of priorities. so i'm only commenting from the perspective of desiring un-compromised performance. YMMV and just my 2 cents.
my racks allow for the perfect working height. you are never hunching over and straining.......and are mass loaded onto a concrete floor and the tt closest to my speakers has active isolation.
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May 20, 2020, 12:34 AM #9
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May 20, 2020, 10:17 AM #10
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May 20, 2020, 11:03 AM #11
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Maybe everyone know this already, but when it comes to unlocking your music, WHERE the turntable & rack are located in the room can be a deal maker or breaker...
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May 20, 2020, 11:24 AM #12
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Paul
Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Pre-Amp PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply
Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS, Stillpoints LPI
Tape Deck Otari 5050B II2
Music Server: Aurender N100H
Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE
SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7, Shunyata Delta NR (I) Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB)
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May 20, 2020, 12:08 PM #13
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Never in a corner, and preferably not on the front wall behind the speakers, nor on the rear wall. Not adjacent to a speaker. Somewhere on the side wall, as long as it's not the first reflection point from the speakers...
Do not want the turntable in any area where the bass might be reinforced.
IMO, IMEDPT4ME - Dynamics, Presence & Tone for Musical Engagement; MBP (3) - stripped down for music only; Shunyata Omega & Sigma USBs; ISO REGEN w/short Curious USB links; Berkeley Alpha USB; Aqua La Scala II Optologic DAC; Schiit Yggdrasil - fully updated; Ayre Codex dac - updated; Pass Labs INT-60 integrated amp; Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE-2 preamp, Quicksilver Mono 120 amps w/Tung-Sol KT150s; Quicksilver Mid Mono amps w/Gold Lion KT77s; Fyne Audio 703s; Symposium Svelte Plus & Ultra Platforms; REL S-812 subwoofers; Duelund DCA12GA speaker cables; AV Room Service EVPs, Stein Music Harmonizers, Duelund DCA16GA & 20GA ICs; Shunyata Denali 6000S/V2; Tripp Lite PCs; Wyred 4 Sound power cords; AudioDharma cable cooker; dedicated custom room; various GIK & ASC room treatments; etc.
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May 20, 2020, 12:28 PM #14Paul
Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Pre-Amp PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply
Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS, Stillpoints LPI
Tape Deck Otari 5050B II2
Music Server: Aurender N100H
Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE
SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7, Shunyata Delta NR (I) Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB)
AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.
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May 23, 2020, 06:47 PM #15
Re: Media Room.... turntable integration
After I tried the top shelf for a week, I shortened the rack, and suspended the turntable on a dedicated shelf from the wall. Anyone walking on the second floor upset the music when the TT was on the floor rack. Couple angle irons and slab of butcher block fixed it all. I did choose a convenient level for TT alignment, and record placement while standing.
Having read Jim’s book, my rack, and TT are on the side wall, with amps only between the speakers, on amp stands.Amplification : Modwright LS300 - Atma-Sphere "Class D" monoblocks
Digital : MSB Premier DAC+Digital Director, Oppo 203, Sonos Port (W4S mod)
Analog : Technics SL1200G, Boulder 508
Speakers : Daedalus Audio Muse Studio
Headphone : BHSE + Voce
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