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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    Ok Dan, so looking at the JL Audio's (for down the road)... it looks like the output from the pre-amplifier goes to the sub-woofer and then the output from the sub-woofer goes to the amplifier. Too bad it does not utilize XLR balanced ....

    The reasoning makes a ton of sense.... are there other companies that use this type of configuration?

    I am sure at this point any purchases are being put on hold. My wife is talking about maybe selling our house and moving, maybe to Florida even. My sister and brother both have homes in the same complex in Ocala. She is starting to get concerned about our ability to comfortably retire here in California, which we would be able to do in Florida ....
    Randy.......I wouldn't let the unbalance connections to the E-Series subwoofers concern you. There are plenty of audio engineers and manufacturers who will argue that unbalanced connections sound better than balanced connections.

    I am fairly certain you should be able to find other subwoofer manufacturers who provide similar connection schemes as the JL Audio E-Series. Of course you can always put a Bryston 10B Sub active crossover into your system for even greater control and balanced or unbalanced connections. You order the connections you want and it get's built that way. Mine had the balanced connectors.

    Retiring to Florida from California is a good idea. I lived in San Francisco for years, then Portland, Oregon for years before ultimately moving back to my home state of Florida. I am not a beach person so living along the coast was not in my plans. I bought property and built my home in rural north central Florida. I have no regrets. You would like Ocala. It is a beautiful area of Florida, rolling hills, horse country with many beautiful horse ranches dotting the area. It is only 40 miles south of Gainesville, Florida where there is a great deal of culture, art, and music that surrounds the University of Florida. Ocala is only 90 miles from my home and about 110 miles from Mike's home. No state income tax is a big advantage of living in Florida, and I am certain Florida's 7% sales tax beats California's sales tax rate. Great year round weather, too. Central Florida is a great place to live.
    Dan

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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Thanks for the input guys.... Florida is definitely sounding like it may be the winner. It is going to be a process of course...
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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Plenty of systems to visit if you get here.
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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Now you are getting me worried

    Well Cheryal started telling the kids (grown kids) tonight that we are going to be moving to Florida... it has gotten very real very quick... ... so I guess it begins...
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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Randy,
    My $0.02...Not only do unmatched subs not harm things, I think they are an advantage. I would agree to stuffing ports as I'm not a fan of ported subs, but if you read Geddes, et al on the Swarm concept you'll see that mismatched gain, damping, level, and crossover frequency can be used fairly simply to smooth bass modes below 200 Hz (which will nearly always be an issue in normal-sized rooms regardless of matched or mismatched subs).

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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Thanks for the input AC. Much appreciated.
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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Randy, Ocala my old home town.
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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Oh, cool... well I believe we have decided... but now comes the fun times of selling and arranging for our new house to be built. So honest opinion... Is Ocala the very nice community that my sister and my brother are telling us?
    Electronics: Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE, DAC-2v2SE, Recovery, Remedy | ARC VT50 w/Gold Lion KT88 | First Watt F6 | Woo Audio WA6
    Speakers/Headphones: MC RL21 | Gingko Stands | REL TZero | KEF Kube | Sennheiser HD800S | KEF M500
    Sources: Roon Headless Server PC & Roon Tablet Controller | Marantz SA8005
    | McIntosh MR85 | Magnum Dynalab ST-2
    Cables: Richard Gray | Wireworld | Audioquest | Tributaries | Kimber Kable | Wyred 4 Sound
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    Re: Mis-matched subs

    Hey Dan, Thanks for the excellent links! I think we will be very happy there.... I will be happy when we get settled.... I hate this part of it all, although putting together what we want in the house is always a fun thing ...
    Electronics: Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE, DAC-2v2SE, Recovery, Remedy | ARC VT50 w/Gold Lion KT88 | First Watt F6 | Woo Audio WA6
    Speakers/Headphones: MC RL21 | Gingko Stands | REL TZero | KEF Kube | Sennheiser HD800S | KEF M500
    Sources: Roon Headless Server PC & Roon Tablet Controller | Marantz SA8005
    | McIntosh MR85 | Magnum Dynalab ST-2
    Cables: Richard Gray | Wireworld | Audioquest | Tributaries | Kimber Kable | Wyred 4 Sound
    Power: Furman Elite 15i | iFi iPower | PS Audio Noise Harvesters

 

 
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