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May 25, 2016, 08:40 AM #1
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WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
PM me if you have a pair that you are selling.
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May 25, 2016, 08:51 AM #2
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
I sell KR audio tubes if you need anything.
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May 25, 2016, 09:14 AM #3
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Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Hi Mike,
I was wondering to go down the path of px4 for my Level 7 but not sure whether the EML 45 is a better choice.
Thanks
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May 25, 2016, 09:46 AM #4
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
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May 25, 2016, 09:32 PM #5
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Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Lets hope so, can we nudge him?
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May 25, 2016, 09:33 PM #6
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Earth to norman/wisnon.
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May 25, 2016, 09:33 PM #7
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
I just emailed him.
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May 26, 2016, 02:02 AM #8
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Based on what the UK guys say...Kron is the way to go. Only Kron I ever tried was KR242. I have more EML Experience.
Bill says the KR45 beats the EML regular mesh 45. He never tried the anniversary globes...neither solid nor mesh.
Both he and Lukasz say the Px4 are the most quiet DHTs of all.
Bill and Kedar both say that the PX4 is a must try....i tell them the EML mesh globe is the bomb.
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May 26, 2016, 04:08 AM #9
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
I didnt see this thread before, so thanks to Mike for pointing it out.
Based on my impressions from others and my own experience, if you had to choose ONE set to get (price/availability being a consideration), get the KRPx4 to start with, then the EML anniv Mesh 45 Globes, then EML SP anniversary 45 globes(unobtanium), then KR45, then EML mesh 45, then EML SP 45.
If your circuit can tolerate it, the KR242 is da bomb. it was for me in the old B7 but dont work in my current GG. Its a 101d on steroids. Kinda the equalizer tube to bridge some of the gap between an older b7 and a first generation GG. The latest GG with R2R firmware update is another step up, I am told.NORMAN
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May 26, 2016, 06:40 AM #10
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May 26, 2016, 07:24 AM #11
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
NORMAN
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May 26, 2016, 07:27 AM #12
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
NORMAN
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May 26, 2016, 09:15 AM #13
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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May 26, 2016, 11:34 AM #14
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Yeah, apparently Kedar said you just need to have the output volume (gain) cut sufficiently at the outset. You can always get sufficient volume with other tubes by turning up the volume knob! LoL
KR242? Sweet tube if you have the means to tame that puppy!NORMAN
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May 26, 2016, 03:24 PM #15
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May 26, 2016, 03:26 PM #16
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May 26, 2016, 03:42 PM #17
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Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Mike, how is the reliability of the KR tubes. My Cary amp came with them stock back when Riccardo and Eunice Kron were still around. I don't remember the details, but I thought they initially partnered with Alesa Vaic. However, that changed with time and the Riccardo's death. Thanks, Larry
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May 26, 2016, 03:47 PM #18
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May 26, 2016, 04:26 PM #19
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Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
I had, and maybe it's still somewhere around, a vintage RCA recti, KR is another planet. Maybe the Tak and Tue original WE are better. Another guy is using the KR 211 on the Lampi amps and swears by them. Will try to listen to his system later in the summer.
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May 26, 2016, 04:35 PM #20
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May 26, 2016, 05:23 PM #21
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NORMAN
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May 26, 2016, 05:25 PM #22
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
NORMAN
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May 26, 2016, 05:25 PM #23
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Hi Deuter, lukasz is selling these tubes. If you go to the Lampi site, click on technology, then DHT tubes, the KR recti is priced at 330 EUR including vat. You might have to pay additional postage and bank fees
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May 27, 2016, 03:31 AM #24
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May 27, 2016, 06:35 AM #25
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Just checked, an original pair of WE 242 get priced around 7 - 9k USD.
Also read this on the Silbatone site: "The rare WE242-C is probably the finest 211 family tube ever produced and one of the best sounding large triodes in our experience."
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May 27, 2016, 07:22 AM #26
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MikeL's pair costs like 800gbp, so the vintage ones are NOT cheap.
NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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May 27, 2016, 10:48 AM #27
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Sure! I'm down with the flu, so once I'm feeling better I'll come up. Get some hours on those S1 mk2's so we can position them properly when I come up. I'll grab the KR tubes from you then. I still need to bring you those KT88's as well.
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May 27, 2016, 11:10 AM #28
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May 27, 2016, 11:47 AM #29My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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May 27, 2016, 08:33 PM #30
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Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
I have attached the specs sheet for my Lampizator.
It came stock with Psvane 101d Hifi DHT and a 5U4C rectifier.
http://www.worldtubecompany.com/mm5/...ategory_Code=5
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May 28, 2016, 05:38 AM #31
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May 28, 2016, 05:46 AM #32
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That I cant say. Bill just said that given MY tube experience so far, my next try should be the PX4.
NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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May 28, 2016, 06:33 AM #33
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Wow,nicely specced Dac you have there Deuter...dual voltage too with r2r dsd256.
What I really wanted to check was item #24, absolute signal volume in mV. I see yours is mid range at 670....well guess what, my GG says 2,500mv.
No wonder the KR242 tubes don't work for me! I would guess they work well for you, just as they do for my pal in Basel who also has a lite 7.NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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May 28, 2016, 10:12 AM #34
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May 28, 2016, 11:20 AM #35
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Mike LaVigne (at WB Forum)has a pair he may sell. Lukasz also sells them as does Mike B. here (he is a Kron dealer). My Swiss pal has a similar unit to yours and had great luck with the Kr242 tubes. His Voltage output max is 412mV while mine is 2,500mV!!!!
See his feedback below:++++++++++++++++++++++++++++I had the KR242 on the 101d setting yesterday, because I wasn’t sure if the 300b setting might harm them …. had them on for 4 hours and they started to open up a little. And yes, they are much louder than any other tube I have.
As a rectifier I have the stock Chinese one from Lukasz and EML 5U4G. The EML is the one I use now.
When I got the L7 first thing I tried was 101d WE replica. Next up were a pair of Elrog 300b. They were king (really nice fat bottom end, which I like), but sadly only lasted for 2 months. The seller took them back.
Next I jumped on the 45 anniversary globes from Lukasz when he announced them last fall. They are really nice in terms of soundstage and width and so forth but have a little less bottom end than the Elrogs.
Now two months ago the Elrog seller contacted me again, asking if I was interested to try the Elrog again. They did some modifications in the meantime to make them more robust. If they break again he will take them back.
I hope they will last a bit longer this time …
And now the 242 arrived (ordered them around Christmas).
Btw… I can’t do 6a3 on my machine (crossed out on the back by Lukasz)
OK, I found the spec sheet: absolute max signal volume here is 412 mV
… and yes the 242 have so much gain whereas I had the volume pot at 12 o’clock before it’s now around 9!
btw … received the RCA WWII 5R4GY recti on Thursday…. tried it so far with the KR242 and the 45 mesh globes from Lukasz … sounds very good … not totally different than with the EML 5U4G though. maybe a bit smoother bass.
I need some more time to compare ….NORMAN
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May 28, 2016, 12:45 PM #36
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Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Hi Norman, I will be very interested in his feedback on 242s vs the Elrogs, please keep me updated, especially if he listens to classical. What speakers does he have?
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May 28, 2016, 12:54 PM #37
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Sure Ked.
I don't know his full system, I will have to ask.NORMAN
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May 28, 2016, 01:50 PM #38
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
NORMAN
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Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Hi everybody!
First post here .... but Norman already introduced me (Swiss pal in post 35) ....
I have a Lite7 with tubed rectifier since a year now.
Here's the rest of my system:
Rowen Absolute PRE
Rowen Absolut RA 1&1 tri-active full range speakers (fully bi-polar)
(Transrotor New Classic Turntable with Benz Glider cart.)
@bonzo: a bit of classical but not so much really
here's a very NEW problem (since this afternoon): wanted to try the Elroy 300b with my new RCA rectifier .... One of the Elrogs is making a buzzing noise on the 300b setting. when I switch to the 45 setting it stops immediately. damn!
it's my second pair of Elrogs. one tube of the first pair died after two months. the replacement pair was supposed to be more robust ...
hmmm ....
Stefan
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May 28, 2016, 03:41 PM #40
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Welcome to the forum Stefan, thank you for joining.
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May 28, 2016, 06:45 PM #41
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Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
Without doing any major search I believe the KR242 would be about double the cost of the KR PX4.
Not willing to spend as much for a pair of tubes and it really makes my DAC very expensive.
As much as I would love to get the most out of my DAC Iam also a firm believer that we shouldn't have to spend exorbitant amounts to get most from our components.
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Found it, was at the bottom of the list.
So that's good it's in price range.
Why is this tube so rare cannot find any information online.
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So the general concensus is to get the KR242
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May 29, 2016, 06:09 AM #46
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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May 29, 2016, 06:14 AM #47
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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May 29, 2016, 06:29 AM #49
Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes
No, MikeL at WB Forum has a vintage pair with adapters likely for sale. They dont work in his GG...likely 2v+ output like mine.
He paid more than the price on Lukasz website.
AAdditionally,mike B here is a Kron dealer and can get them too. Ask him directly about price and availability.NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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May 29, 2016, 07:46 AM #50
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I got my KR242 directly from Eunice Kron. She put me on a list last November and it seems they were manufacturing a small run just now.
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