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    WTB EML or KR Audio tubes

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    Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes

    I sell KR audio tubes if you need anything.


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    Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes

    Hi Mike,

    I was wondering to go down the path of px4 for my Level 7 but not sure whether the EML 45 is a better choice.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuter View Post
    Hi Mike,

    I was wondering to go down the path of px4 for my Level 7 but not sure whether the EML 45 is a better choice.

    Thanks
    Hopefully Norman will weigh in here with comparisons.
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    Lets hope so, can we nudge him?

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    Earth to norman/wisnon.
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    I just emailed him.
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    Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes

    Based on what the UK guys say...Kron is the way to go. Only Kron I ever tried was KR242. I have more EML Experience.

    Bill says the KR45 beats the EML regular mesh 45. He never tried the anniversary globes...neither solid nor mesh.

    Both he and Lukasz say the Px4 are the most quiet DHTs of all.

    Bill and Kedar both say that the PX4 is a must try....i tell them the EML mesh globe is the bomb.

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    I didnt see this thread before, so thanks to Mike for pointing it out.

    Based on my impressions from others and my own experience, if you had to choose ONE set to get (price/availability being a consideration), get the KRPx4 to start with, then the EML anniv Mesh 45 Globes, then EML SP anniversary 45 globes(unobtanium), then KR45, then EML mesh 45, then EML SP 45.

    If your circuit can tolerate it, the KR242 is da bomb. it was for me in the old B7 but dont work in my current GG. Its a 101d on steroids. Kinda the equalizer tube to bridge some of the gap between an older b7 and a first generation GG. The latest GG with R2R firmware update is another step up, I am told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    I didnt see this thread before, so thanks to Mike for pointing it out.

    Based on my impressions from others and my own experience, if you had to choose ONE set to get (price/availability being a consideration), get the KRPx4 to start with, then the EML anniv Mesh 45 Globes, then EML SP anniversary 45 globes(unobtanium), then KR45, then EML mesh 45, then EML SP 45.

    If your circuit can tolerate it, the KR242 is da bomb. it was for me in the old B7 but dont work in my current GG. Its a 101d on steroids. Kinda the equalizer tube to bridge some of the gap between an older b7 and a first generation GG. The latest GG with R2R firmware update is another step up, I am told.
    I agree with everything Norman has written here - great advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiophile bill View Post
    I agree with everything Norman has written here - great advice.
    Hahahaha,

    I essentially got the advice from you!

    You have me pining away for a Px4 pair now. Curiousity piqued!
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    Quote Originally Posted by deuter View Post
    Hi Mike,

    I was wondering to go down the path of px4 for my Level 7 but not sure whether the EML 45 is a better choice.

    Thanks
    Can you send the specs on your Lite7. You can get them from your included spec sheet. i know you have an atypical one, as its tube rectified. What is the output voltage, what kind of PCM and DSD engines, and what tubes came with the Dac in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    I didnt see this thread before, so thanks to Mike for pointing it out.

    Based on my impressions from others and my own experience, if you had to choose ONE set to get (price/availability being a consideration), get the KRPx4 to start with, then the EML anniv Mesh 45 Globes, then EML SP anniversary 45 globes(unobtanium), then KR45, then EML mesh 45, then EML SP 45.

    If your circuit can tolerate it, the KR242 is da bomb. it was for me in the old B7 but dont work in my current GG. Its a 101d on steroids. Kinda the equalizer tube to bridge some of the gap between an older b7 and a first generation GG. The latest GG with R2R firmware update is another step up, I am told.
    Thanks Norman, I knew you would know! KR242....hmmm...time to call Fred to make sure it will work in my Big 7. Thanks to you, I am loving that 1944 RCA 5U4GY rectifier. What a hidden gem! Paired with the EML Anniversary Globes is a fabulous combination.

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    Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes

    Yeah, apparently Kedar said you just need to have the output volume (gain) cut sufficiently at the outset. You can always get sufficient volume with other tubes by turning up the volume knob! LoL

    KR242? Sweet tube if you have the means to tame that puppy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Thanks Norman, I knew you would know! KR242....hmmm...time to call Fred to make sure it will work in my Big 7. Thanks to you, I am loving that 1944 RCA 5U4GY rectifier. What a hidden gem! Paired with the EML Anniversary Globes is a fabulous combination.
    It almost certainly will. Will be great to get your feedback on it vs Elrogs. Also have you tried the KR 274b yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo View Post
    It almost certainly will. Will be great to get your feedback on it vs Elrogs. Also have you tried the KR 274b yet?
    To be honest, I'm so happy with Norman's suggestion of the 1944 RCA 5U4GY that I'm not looking for anything else. I do think the KR242 could be fun though on the output side.
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    Mike, how is the reliability of the KR tubes. My Cary amp came with them stock back when Riccardo and Eunice Kron were still around. I don't remember the details, but I thought they initially partnered with Alesa Vaic. However, that changed with time and the Riccardo's death. Thanks, Larry
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    Quote Originally Posted by astrotoy View Post
    Mike, how is the reliability of the KR tubes. My Cary amp came with them stock back when Riccardo and Eunice Kron were still around. I don't remember the details, but I thought they initially partnered with Alesa Vaic. However, that changed with time and the Riccardo's death. Thanks, Larry
    Larry - to be honest, I wouldn't want to say as I haven't personally had enough experience with them. I THINK Andy has had a few and maybe he will weigh in here.
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    I had, and maybe it's still somewhere around, a vintage RCA recti, KR is another planet. Maybe the Tak and Tue original WE are better. Another guy is using the KR 211 on the Lampi amps and swears by them. Will try to listen to his system later in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo View Post
    I had, and maybe it's still somewhere around, a vintage RCA recti, KR is another planet. Maybe the Tak and Tue original WE are better. Another guy is using the KR 211 on the Lampi amps and swears by them. Will try to listen to his system later in the summer.
    This isn't just any normal RCA recti. This was only made in 1944 (and perhaps 1945). Very rare bird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    This isn't just any normal RCA recti. This was only made in 1944 (and perhaps 1945). Very rare bird.
    Yup, WW2 JAN version with double upward sloping getters. Many or the ordinary types out there....not the same thing at all. I initially made that mistake and got the ordinary one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by astrotoy View Post
    Mike, how is the reliability of the KR tubes. My Cary amp came with them stock back when Riccardo and Eunice Kron were still around. I don't remember the details, but I thought they initially partnered with Alesa Vaic. However, that changed with time and the Riccardo's death. Thanks, Larry
    Except for Elrogs, I have never heard any new tubes fail in a Lampi Dac. The tubes are run at 25% of rated capacity, so its very gentle on tubes. Real that DHTs normally run in power amps...so in a preamp circuit...
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    Re: WTB EML or KR Audio tubes

    Hi Deuter, lukasz is selling these tubes. If you go to the Lampi site, click on technology, then DHT tubes, the KR recti is priced at 330 EUR including vat. You might have to pay additional postage and bank fees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Thanks Norman, I knew you would know! KR242....hmmm...time to call Fred to make sure it will work in my Big 7. Thanks to you, I am loving that 1944 RCA 5U4GY rectifier. What a hidden gem! Paired with the EML Anniversary Globes is a fabulous combination.


    I can bring mine down for an afternoon, if you would like ?? Let me know.

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    Just checked, an original pair of WE 242 get priced around 7 - 9k USD.


    Also read this on the Silbatone site: "The rare WE242-C is probably the finest 211 family tube ever produced and one of the best sounding large triodes in our experience."

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    MikeL's pair costs like 800gbp, so the vintage ones are NOT cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDLaudio View Post
    I can bring mine down for an afternoon, if you would like ?? Let me know.
    Sure! I'm down with the flu, so once I'm feeling better I'll come up. Get some hours on those S1 mk2's so we can position them properly when I come up. I'll grab the KR tubes from you then. I still need to bring you those KT88's as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Sure! I'm down with the flu, so once I'm feeling better I'll come up. Get some hours on those S1 mk2's so we can position them properly when I come up. I'll grab the KR tubes from you then. I still need to bring you those KT88's as well.


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    I decided to go with the KT-120's. The guys at UpScale Audio said those would work great. So I found a matched set of (8) on Ebay. I will be un-boxing the Magicos today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDLaudio View Post
    I decided to go with the KT-120's. The guys at UpScale Audio said those would work great. So I found a matched set of (8) on Ebay. I will be un-boxing the Magicos today.
    cool. Those will sound better too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    Can you send the specs on your Lite7. You can get them from your included spec sheet. i know you have an atypical one, as its tube rectified. What is the output voltage, what kind of PCM and DSD engines, and what tubes came with the Dac in the first place.

    I have attached the specs sheet for my Lampizator.

    It came stock with Psvane 101d Hifi DHT and a 5U4C rectifier.
    http://www.worldtubecompany.com/mm5/...ategory_Code=5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    Based on what the UK guys say...Kron is the way to go. Only Kron I ever tried was KR242. I have more EML Experience.

    Bill says the KR45 beats the EML regular mesh 45. He never tried the anniversary globes...neither solid nor mesh.

    Both he and Lukasz say the Px4 are the most quiet DHTs of all.

    Bill and Kedar both say that the PX4 is a must try....i tell them the EML mesh globe is the bomb.

    So so between the two KR, 45 and PX4 is the preference for PX4 ?

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    That I cant say. Bill just said that given MY tube experience so far, my next try should be the PX4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deuter View Post
    I have attached the specs sheet for my Lampizator.

    It came stock with Psvane 101d Hifi DHT and a 5U4C rectifier.
    http://www.worldtubecompany.com/mm5/...ategory_Code=5

    Wow,nicely specced Dac you have there Deuter...dual voltage too with r2r dsd256.

    What I really wanted to check was item #24, absolute signal volume in mV. I see yours is mid range at 670....well guess what, my GG says 2,500mv.
    No wonder the KR242 tubes don't work for me! I would guess they work well for you, just as they do for my pal in Basel who also has a lite 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    Wow,nicely specced Dac you have there Deuter...dual voltage too with r2r dsd256.

    What I really wanted to check was item #24, absolute signal volume in mV. I see yours is mid range at 670....well guess what, my GG says 2,500mv.
    No wonder the KR242 tubes don't work for me! I would guess they work well for you, just as they do for my pal in Basel who also has a lite 7.
    Where do I find the 242 , looked online but they don't list that tube.

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    Mike LaVigne (at WB Forum)has a pair he may sell. Lukasz also sells them as does Mike B. here (he is a Kron dealer). My Swiss pal has a similar unit to yours and had great luck with the Kr242 tubes. His Voltage output max is 412mV while mine is 2,500mV!!!!

    See his feedback below:
    I had the KR242 on the 101d setting yesterday, because I wasn’t sure if the 300b setting might harm them …. had them on for 4 hours and they started to open up a little. And yes, they are much louder than any other tube I have.
    As a rectifier I have the stock Chinese one from Lukasz and EML 5U4G. The EML is the one I use now.
    When I got the L7 first thing I tried was 101d WE replica. Next up were a pair of Elrog 300b. They were king (really nice fat bottom end, which I like), but sadly only lasted for 2 months. The seller took them back.
    Next I jumped on the 45 anniversary globes from Lukasz when he announced them last fall. They are really nice in terms of soundstage and width and so forth but have a little less bottom end than the Elrogs.
    Now two months ago the Elrog seller contacted me again, asking if I was interested to try the Elrog again. They did some modifications in the meantime to make them more robust. If they break again he will take them back.
    I hope they will last a bit longer this time …
    And now the 242 arrived (ordered them around Christmas).
    Btw… I can’t do 6a3 on my machine (crossed out on the back by Lukasz)
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    OK, I found the spec sheet: absolute max signal volume here is 412 mV
    … and yes the 242 have so much gain whereas I had the volume pot at 12 o’clock before it’s now around 9!


    btw … received the RCA WWII 5R4GY recti on Thursday…. tried it so far with the KR242 and the 45 mesh globes from Lukasz … sounds very good … not totally different than with the EML 5U4G though. maybe a bit smoother bass.
    I need some more time to compare ….
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    Hi Norman, I will be very interested in his feedback on 242s vs the Elrogs, please keep me updated, especially if he listens to classical. What speakers does he have?

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    Sure Ked.

    I don't know his full system, I will have to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deuter View Post
    Where do I find the 242 , looked online but they don't list that tube.
    Chris from Germany likes the EML regular mesh 45 over the Kron 45 in his GG with only 30 hours on it.
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    Hi everybody!
    First post here .... but Norman already introduced me (Swiss pal in post 35) ....
    I have a Lite7 with tubed rectifier since a year now.
    Here's the rest of my system:
    Rowen Absolute PRE
    Rowen Absolut RA 1&1 tri-active full range speakers (fully bi-polar)
    (Transrotor New Classic Turntable with Benz Glider cart.)

    @bonzo: a bit of classical but not so much really

    here's a very NEW problem (since this afternoon): wanted to try the Elroy 300b with my new RCA rectifier .... One of the Elrogs is making a buzzing noise on the 300b setting. when I switch to the 45 setting it stops immediately. damn!
    it's my second pair of Elrogs. one tube of the first pair died after two months. the replacement pair was supposed to be more robust ...

    hmmm ....

    Stefan

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    Without doing any major search I believe the KR242 would be about double the cost of the KR PX4.
    Not willing to spend as much for a pair of tubes and it really makes my DAC very expensive.
    As much as I would love to get the most out of my DAC Iam also a firm believer that we shouldn't have to spend exorbitant amounts to get most from our components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuter View Post
    Without doing any major search I believe the KR242 would be about double the cost of the KR PX4.
    Not willing to spend as much for a pair of tubes and it really makes my DAC very expensive.
    As much as I would love to get the most out of my DAC Iam also a firm believer that we shouldn't have to spend exorbitant amounts to get most from our components.
    On the Lampi website the price of the 242 is less than the PX4. Though by a 100 EUR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo View Post
    On the Lampi website the price of the 242 is less than the PX4. Though by a 100 EUR.
    Iam struggling to find it, can someone send me some links.

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    Found it, was at the bottom of the list.

    So that's good it's in price range.

    Why is this tube so rare cannot find any information online.

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    So the general concensus is to get the KR242

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuter View Post
    Found it, was at the bottom of the list.

    So that's good it's in price range.

    Why is this tube so rare cannot find any information online.
    Allnic used it in their preamp...otherwise its not very much in service and is being resurrected by Lampi user demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stewa View Post
    Hi everybody!
    First post here .... but Norman already introduced me (Swiss pal in post 35) ....
    I have a Lite7 with tubed rectifier since a year now.
    Here's the rest of my system:
    Rowen Absolute PRE
    Rowen ti-active full range speakers (fully bi-polar)
    (Transrotor New Classic Turntable with Benz Glider cart.)

    @deuter: a bit of classical but not so much really

    here's a very NEW problem (since this afternoon): wanted to try the Elroy 300b with my new RCA rectifier .... One of the Elrogs is making a buzzing noise on the 300b setting. when I switch to the 45 setting it stops immediately. damn!
    it's my second pair of Elrogs. one tube of the first pair died after two months. the replacement pair was supposed to be more robust ...

    hmmm ....

    Stefan
    Hi Stefan

    Warm welcome.

    Sorry about the Elrogs/ MikeLavigne uses them only on the 101d setting and is happy that way.

    I didnt realize that you are a Total Rowen guy. Great stuff from Anton Aebischer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    Allnic used it in their preamp...otherwise its not very much in service and is being resurrected by Lampi user demand.
    So I can only get it through Lukasz ? But he's away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuter View Post
    So I can only get it through Lukasz ? But he's away.
    No, MikeL at WB Forum has a vintage pair with adapters likely for sale. They dont work in his GG...likely 2v+ output like mine.

    He paid more than the price on Lukasz website.

    AAdditionally,mike B here is a Kron dealer and can get them too. Ask him directly about price and availability.
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    I got my KR242 directly from Eunice Kron. She put me on a list last November and it seems they were manufacturing a small run just now.
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