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Thread: MQA Discussion
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September 8, 2017, 03:26 PM #9512chl : Vincent Sp331MkII, W4S STP-SE Stage 2, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, Quicksilver Headamp, HD650, HD800s, HD820's, Dan Clark 1.1, Focal Stellia, OPPO 203, 105. ( Boxed up: Pass Xa-30.5, VPI Classic, Dynavector DV-20XL, Manley Chinook, Cadenza Bronze)
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September 14, 2017, 05:10 PM #952
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No MQA yet. At home, Oppo 103D into a Parasound Halo Integrated using the Oppo Media Control and my phone for control. Signal is wireless from my home network, but I don't think that's the weak link, I can stream video flawlessly. I think that when I've had problems with it freezing it has been when I haven't listen to a song or two all the way through and advance to another selection. Anybody know if that could be the problem?
In the car I stream through my iPhone. I expect a little stuttering when first starting up, but the 10-20 second dropouts come later and seem to happen for no apparent reason. I never had that kind of problem with Pandora One, but I realize that Tidal is a bigger data stream. Had no problems driving in this morning after being out of town for a week.
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September 19, 2017, 07:57 PM #953
Re: MQA Discussion
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...litics-of-mqa/
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September 19, 2017, 08:32 PM #954
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September 20, 2017, 09:04 AM #955
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Howie - you're exactly right and for the most part, those quacking the loudest have never truly heard MQA in their systems. The TAS article above does a great job outlining the silly "on paper" arguments. The problem I have experienced is that people want to come in and rapidly switch back and forth between the PCM version and the MQA version. I oblige, but to truly appreciate MQA, it requires you to think about your listening experiences in more of a subliminal manner. As I said back in February (My take on MQA), you won't jump up and down and say "WOW - look, I can hear that cymbal so much more clearly!!!" or "wow, I never heard that instrument before in this song."
What you will find is that digital fatigue is reduced greatly. If people don't find they suffer at all from digital fatigue, GREAT! Move on, ignore all this MQA stuff and buy more music. But I do, and I know it's real (for me). I don't suffer from digital fatigue listening to full blown MQA. In fact, I find I can listen for hours - entire album after entire album. Is it all in my head, that it's all in my head? HA!! Don't know, don't care. I know what I hear and frankly, my digital listening is now 99% MQA only. I've tried to go back to a regular old redbook album and digital fatigue sets in.
Some people relate this digital fatigue to time domain accuracy and temporal smearing. MQA sets out to fix both of these things (https://www.soundonsound.com/techniq...-audio-quality)
If people think it's a bunch of hooey to just make an already rich Bob Stuart richer, that's their prerogative. If they think it's some lossy scheme no better than MP3 and a bunch of BS, fine, ignore it and go back to listening to your CD's ("perfect sound forever"). But attacking MQA without first keeping an open mind and second having ample experience listening to full blown MQA is just BS.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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September 20, 2017, 02:32 PM #956
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I think the funniest argument is that Bob Stuart is "in it for the money" while the same naysayers talk about him marrying an "heiress with a fortune that saved Meridian." ok, so why does he need the money.
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September 20, 2017, 04:21 PM #957
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Yes. Agreed.
If MQA was a situation of "come buy all the SOS from our new MQA store - all albums are $30", I would be suspicious. But MQA albums are included in your Tidal or QoBuz subscription at no additional cost and if you look at a Lumin owner or PS Audio owner or Aurender A10 owner, etc., there is no additional cost on the hardware side either, just a simple firmware update. Not sure about MSB or DCS, but maybe them too!
So, why all the MQA haters? Jealousy? Ignorance? Has to be.
If you think it's total bunk, then ignore it, like the redbook lovers did with DSD years ago.
I love how new MQA albums are coming out every single week. Some brand new albums, some old, some rock, some jazz, some classical, some country - there is something for everyone!
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September 21, 2017, 12:12 AM #958
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I found this example of one album converted to MQA quite interesting:
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September 25, 2017, 10:21 AM #959
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I've been listening to Tidal MQA albums, from classical music DG, from the 60s and 70s, and although with MQA there is a diminution of the digital edge, I definitely have to say that I felt that I was missing something of the musical emotion. I almost always preferred version 16/44. I'm not so sure about recent recordings like 2L record
Francisco
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September 25, 2017, 10:24 AM #960
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September 25, 2017, 11:19 AM #961
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Lumin A1.
MQA Mode..... Analoge Outpouts..... MQA Studio
MQA Mode.... Out..............................Flac 44/16Francisco
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September 25, 2017, 11:20 AM #962My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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September 25, 2017, 12:01 PM #963
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When I heard the first records with the Beta version of Lumin's MQA firmware, I thought I preferred the MQA version of the file. However, since then there has been a major change in my system, a Denalli 6000T + 2 Alpha NR (I expect another Alpha NR and a Sigma NR). These products of Shunyata, have produced a great diminution of the digital restlessness. I think maybe, that's what makes it, now prefer the version Flac 44/16, which is more "vibrant."
However when I hear Jazz ..... I no longer have it so clear.Francisco
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September 25, 2017, 02:04 PM #964
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The latest round of heated debate... http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...olution-begin/
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September 25, 2017, 02:46 PM #965
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Thanks Bill. It was interesting to read Michael Ritter's comments. I've been following the ongoing debates, shootouts, etc. For the most part, as the guest editorial states, most of the MQA naysayers, have never actually heard full blown MQA in their system. The shootouts are also useless IMO. I've done my own, and wrote about them back in February when MQA was still a twinkle in the eye of many: My take on MQA
You can't pick three songs and go back and forth and hope people will pick one or the other. I'm not surprised the results are 50/50. Have people listen to three entire albums and make a "tick mark" on a piece of paper when digital fatigue sets in. Do the same with the MQA version. I bet people will see a lot less tick marks on the MQA sheet.
I firmly believe the benefits of MQA are more passive than active. As I stated many months ago, I find myself able to listen to digital a lot longer, not jump around from song to song and no signs of digital fatigue. Those looking for cymbals to jump out and hit them over the head, or a female singer reach out and touch them will be seriously disappointed. That's not the point of MQA, IMO.
One last thing, if people think MQA is total bunk, fine, move on, but before you dismiss it, live with full blown MQA in your system for several weeks/months. I heard the same arguments when SACD and DSD were making strides. Where are those naysayers now? Oh yeah, they've moved on to MQA and still tout the greatness of "perfect sound forever".My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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September 26, 2017, 03:07 PM #966
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http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...olution-begin/
"Unfortunately, the Internet has given voice to anyone with a keyboard, allowing individuals with absolutely no understanding of MQA’s technology, and no firsthand listening experience, to weigh in, often with vitriolic invective."
"These classic symptoms of Kuhn’s “crisis” phase of a scientific revolution are the result of two distinctly different paradigm shifts on which MQA is based. Bob Stuart and Peter Craven (the British mathematician who co-developed MQA with Stuart) didn’t invent the two emerging paradigms that are the foundations of MQA. Rather, they researched and discovered new ideas in other disciplines (specifically digital sampling in astronomy and medical imaging, and insights into psychoacoustics from neuroscientific advances) and applied those principles to audio. Other fields have been more open to these breakthroughs, but for some reason audio seems to be populated largely by calcified fundamentalists who cling to the past."
"It’s quite astounding that MQA can combine so many virtues, and solve so many problems, in a single stroke. It’s an audiophile’s dream come true."
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September 26, 2017, 03:17 PM #967
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September 26, 2017, 05:35 PM #968
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September 26, 2017, 05:45 PM #969
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A couple of Robert Harley’s problems are: he tries to explain and support his published positions through pseudo-scientific arguments, despite having no real scientific qualifications, and his opinions flip-flop frequently, often without his knowing or noticing it, how or why anyone pays attnetion to his writings anymore is beyond me.
I can understand why Meridian and their marketing department might make claims about MQA like the ones in the editorial; I can’t understand why the editor of a journal which purports to serve its readers and the audiophile community would do so. He is not describing a paradigm shift, and Bob Stuart et al are not in any way similar or comparable to Planck, Kelvin or Einstein.Rob
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September 26, 2017, 05:52 PM #970
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September 26, 2017, 06:55 PM #971
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September 26, 2017, 06:57 PM #972
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I think MQA is awesome for streaming. To compress a high res file so I can easily listen over the internet or via Tidal. I don’t think it’s a big deal for content I’m storing on my NAS. I have 12TB there, and 8TB on my Aurender. Storage is cheap.
Is it a leap forward in streaming technology, yes. But that’s where it ends.
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September 26, 2017, 08:19 PM #973
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In the greater scheme of things MQA just doesn’t matter. Whatever the cause, if global warming continues the Earth will be a very unpleasant place for our children to live. Right now, the only people arguing against doing something are some entitled, ignorant Americans, most of whom won’t be alive to experience the end result of their actions (or inaction). Even China is now taking steps to lower pollution and CO2 emissions.
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September 26, 2017, 08:44 PM #974
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September 26, 2017, 09:09 PM #975
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I am new to MQA; new to Tidal and new to Roon. Like DAYS new. Quite the learning curve I have been on the last few days. All I can say is between Roon and Tidal I may never buy another album again. Roon and Tidal is expensive? I have already listened to 2 years payments and fees worth of music in the last 3 days! I feel sorry for HD Tracks and others; I hope they survive for audiophiles sake....
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September 26, 2017, 10:00 PM #976
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If global warming is proven or unproven in 1,000 years, I am very confident that China will not be a country that turned the tide for the better. The math simply does not allow it. They cannot afford to import enough crude to power their country. They MUST use their coal and while it can be consumed in an environmentally favorably way, the economics today do not favor it. China will be burning coal for many decades into the future as it is the only real hydrocarbon resource they have. They do have or likely have shale gas deposits like the USA, those deposits are in mountainous regions that may prove cost prohibitive to mine.
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September 27, 2017, 01:23 AM #977
MQA Discussion
I think addressing the differentiation of purpose makes sense here. It is hard to argue with the fact that MQA brings a new flavor to streaming. And as with all new formats availability of a compelling catalogue remains key. Then again people will choose to prefer FLAC, WAV, DSD or MQA depending on their system and music taste.
Whether MQA has the ability to topple DSD, vinyl or R2R sound quality, is highly questionable and I am not sure whether that even is the purpose.
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September 27, 2017, 01:27 AM #978
Re: MQA Discussion
I'm not planning on purchasing any MQA files. So if full MQA decoding makes several thousand (and growing) files on Tidal sound smoother and less digital then I am by all means in. It's really not costing me anything.
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September 27, 2017, 03:39 AM #979
Re: MQA Discussion
imo MQA is just a smart new trick from the industry to make good money.
the supply/value chain looks like a typical marketing concept from A to Z.
and i'm sure many expensive upgrades will follow.
good reason to buy more vinyl.
just my 50ct.
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September 27, 2017, 07:35 AM #980
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Re: MQA Discussion
I still have to hear and compare MQA with a flac file.
how do I do that, is there a sampler somewhere?
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September 27, 2017, 08:01 AM #981
Re: MQA Discussion
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September 27, 2017, 08:04 AM #982
Re: MQA Discussion
http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html?
note that you will need a MQA DAC. Otherwise get a free TIDAL trial and you can get a partial software decode to get a feel for MQA with any DAC driven by a computerRob
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September 27, 2017, 08:27 AM #983
MQA Discussion
What industry?
Money from where?
If you have a Lumin, PS Audio with Network Bridge II and countless others, the MQA upgrade is free. I know some manufacturers will charge a small fee to recover their development costs (i.e. $500 like Berkeley), but it's not crazy. Also, MQA albums are included for free with your Tidal subscription.
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September 27, 2017, 08:52 AM #984
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September 27, 2017, 09:02 AM #985
Re: MQA Discussion
Also, MQA albums are included for free with your Tidal subscription.2chl : Vincent Sp331MkII, W4S STP-SE Stage 2, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, Quicksilver Headamp, HD650, HD800s, HD820's, Dan Clark 1.1, Focal Stellia, OPPO 203, 105. ( Boxed up: Pass Xa-30.5, VPI Classic, Dynavector DV-20XL, Manley Chinook, Cadenza Bronze)
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September 27, 2017, 09:03 AM #986
Re: MQA Discussion
2chl : Vincent Sp331MkII, W4S STP-SE Stage 2, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, Quicksilver Headamp, HD650, HD800s, HD820's, Dan Clark 1.1, Focal Stellia, OPPO 203, 105. ( Boxed up: Pass Xa-30.5, VPI Classic, Dynavector DV-20XL, Manley Chinook, Cadenza Bronze)
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September 27, 2017, 09:05 AM #987
Re: MQA Discussion
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September 27, 2017, 09:23 AM #988
Re: MQA Discussion
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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September 27, 2017, 10:25 AM #989
MQA Discussion
An opposing view?
"I was eager to hear the differences. Although I don’t have an MQA-compatible DAC, MQA-processed files can be played by non-MQA DACs, and some have reported that they sound better than the non-MQA versions."
Again? Sigh!
If Doug is saying some people have reported MQA files sound better on a non-MQA compatible DAC, I find that VERY hard to believe. I have 12 DAC's at my disposal and I'm calling BS on that one.
Again, I spoke with Bob Stuart at Munich in May. I asked him specifically about the claim that people are making that they are getting "90%" of MQA without an MQA DAC. He laughed and said "it's not even 50%". I asked for clarification: "20%?" His response, "maybe".
Trying to write about MQA requires A. full decoding of MQA (Lumin U1 --> Berkeley Ref 2 MQA DAC for example) and B. time. Just listen. Take 2-3 weeks and listen. If you still think MQA is total BS after that, then move on or as they say in New York, fuhgeddaboudit. I can't imagine that someone in Doug's position can't get a proper MQA setup to borrow.
It's like someone buying SACD's (which have the CD layer), playing them on a non-SACD player and saying "I hear no difference between the CD and SACD".
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September 27, 2017, 11:13 AM #990
Re: MQA Discussion
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September 27, 2017, 11:56 AM #991
Re: MQA Discussion
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September 27, 2017, 11:59 AM #992
Re: MQA Discussion
I totally agree. Nothing infuriates me more than realizing that $50 vinyl record was sourced from a digital master. UGH. One of my favorite albums is Elton John, Tumbleweed Connection. I have four (yes four) original pressings. I THINK I paid $10 for the most expensive one. I recently purchased the reissue for $25 here: http://www.elusivedisc.com/Elton-Joh...fo/MERLP83065/
It's total and complete crap compared to a first pressing from the tapes.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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September 27, 2017, 12:04 PM #993
Re: MQA Discussion
Hi Mike.
Since you have the possibility to completely decode MQA, both with Lumin A1 and with Lumin U1 + Berkeley Ref2, I would like to ask you if you believe that the Flac 44/16 comparison against the same file, fully deployed MQA, is equally satisfactory with A1 and With U1 + Berkeley?
I do not ask if U1 + Berkeley sounds better than A1, but who does the best, the latest MQA deployment.
I hope Google Translate has done a good job.
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September 27, 2017, 12:12 PM #994
Re: MQA Discussion
Yes, I have done those comparisons and whether I'm listening to an MQA album at home on my Lumin A1 or the same MQA album in the store, it's mutually satisfying. But the Lumin U1/Berk REF2 MQA is really on a level of its own.
Have I found MQA albums that suck? Yes. A few. Lynyrd Skynyrd Second Helping MQA vs this version: http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/85...m_Vinyl_Record -- there is no comparison.
Mark (MDP) and I have been talking about MQA. He's very impressed with most MQA albums, but pointed out this example, and after my own comparison vs the vinyl, I concur.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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September 27, 2017, 12:13 PM #995
Re: MQA Discussion
When your free Tidal trial is over unless you cancel, you will pay for whatever subscription option you chose, So you pick standard at $9.99 no MQA, , you pick Hi-Fi you pay $19.99 and you get MQA. You are asked to submit a credit card for this trial. There is no charge for the MQA as its included in the masters Hifi section. But you will pay $19.99 a month to listen to it, which is $10 more than standard. Maybe we are saying the same thing.
http://tidal.com/us/try-now-b
Right now I'm loving Dire striats on MQA via my Lumin.2chl : Vincent Sp331MkII, W4S STP-SE Stage 2, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, Quicksilver Headamp, HD650, HD800s, HD820's, Dan Clark 1.1, Focal Stellia, OPPO 203, 105. ( Boxed up: Pass Xa-30.5, VPI Classic, Dynavector DV-20XL, Manley Chinook, Cadenza Bronze)
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September 27, 2017, 01:03 PM #996
Re: MQA Discussion
Jim
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September 27, 2017, 01:14 PM #997
Re: MQA Discussion
2chl : Vincent Sp331MkII, W4S STP-SE Stage 2, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, Quicksilver Headamp, HD650, HD800s, HD820's, Dan Clark 1.1, Focal Stellia, OPPO 203, 105. ( Boxed up: Pass Xa-30.5, VPI Classic, Dynavector DV-20XL, Manley Chinook, Cadenza Bronze)
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September 27, 2017, 01:17 PM #998
Re: MQA Discussion
No. You only get lossy Tidal for $9.99. You have always paid $19.99 for 16/44 CD quality. Tidal did not raise the price above $19.99 when they added MQA titles beginning last January.
Premium - $9.99 USD a month with standard sound quality, high definition music videos and expertly curated editorial. (prices vary depending on geography and local currency)
HiFi - $19.99 USD a month with lossless High Fidelity sound quality, high definition music videos, expertly curated editorial. (prices vary depending on geography and local currency)
Jim
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Wilson Alexandria X2 Series 2 speakers
Digital: dCS Vivaldi APEX DAC, Clock & Upsampler
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September 27, 2017, 03:44 PM #999
Re: MQA Discussion
2chl : Vincent Sp331MkII, W4S STP-SE Stage 2, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, Quicksilver Headamp, HD650, HD800s, HD820's, Dan Clark 1.1, Focal Stellia, OPPO 203, 105. ( Boxed up: Pass Xa-30.5, VPI Classic, Dynavector DV-20XL, Manley Chinook, Cadenza Bronze)
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September 27, 2017, 04:46 PM #1000
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Re: MQA Discussion
Which is why there will never be more than a few thousand MQA titles at best. MQA will remain another irrelevant niche format, like HDCD, SACD, DSD etc. If Tidal would raise their prices for MQA users to allow for economics where release of more titles might make sense, who'd want to pay except perhaps a few thousand audiophiles at best?
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