Heco Direkt

[Devg]

Wow, the specs on the Dreiklang is just superb. Though I am not in search of a new speaker, the Dreiklang looks something very especial.

Jack, the X1 performance with MiniDSP will be sub-par ? Having listening to the M3S for some time, the X1 could be a mind blowing speaker and for a speaker of that caliber, you really need theDEQX/LIO

[joeinid]

OMG!

[Devg]

yes, terrific spec and looks. Joe, I would be interested to know when you hear back from the dealer

[Devg]

[joeinid]

Very nice.

Big, full, meaty sound.

[CPP]

Nice !, the big guy might require some help bringing in the house, 150lbs ea

[joeinid]

The Dreiklang are $8500 delivered. Correction, not sure if this price is correct.



The review below needs to be read with translation like Google Chrome.

http://www.i-fidelity.net/testberich...lang/test.html

[Everest Audio]

My guy is thinking just over $10,000 CAD. So, that places it in the $7,700 USD range.

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My distributor made a mistake. He now has his pricing figured out. In Canada, the Heco Direkt will be $4,500 CAD and the Dreiklang will be $14,000 CAD.

[CPP]

My distributor made a mistake. He now has his pricing figured out. In Canada, the Heco Direkt will be $4,500 CAD and the Dreiklang will be $14,000 CAD.

$14,000 cad I think is around $10k US

[Everest Audio]

Converts to about $10,500 USD. But, that's the Canadian retail. I don't know the US retail from the US distributor.

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[joeinid]

I have to make a phone call. I should know today.

Converts to about $10,500 USD. But, that's the Canadian retail. I don't know the US retail from the US distributor.

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[CPP]

I have to make a phone call. I should know today.

[joeinid]

Too late

Playing phone tag. Stay tuned.

[Everest Audio]

Okay, here are the Heco Direkt connected to the new Hegel Rost integrated fed via Ethernet. They changed quite a bit in even an hour of listening. Very impressed so far. They seem rather upfront in their presentation, but still an easy listen. I get the feeling they'll be quite smooth. Not as much detail as I'm used to hearing with ATC, but I had expected that all along. So, they'll be more forgiving. Bass in the first hour definitely started coming around and they opened up quite a bit. My guess is that the 95dB sensitivity seems quite generous as I certainly didn't get the impression the sensitivity was that high, but overall seems like it will be very amp friendly regardless. Based on looks alone, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they were double the $4,500 CAD retail. I personally love the look. We'll see as we get some hours on them, but I'd say very high value for what you're getting.

[joeinid]

Beautiful photos, thank you for the update.

[Everest Audio]

Beautiful photos, thank you for the update.

Thanks Joe, just used my Samsung phone for the photos, but that will have to do. It will be very interesting to see how they come around with break-in.

[joeinid]

I'm very interested in your opinion as they get more play time. I love the looks too but would probably go with black

Please keep us posted.

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[Everest Audio]

I'm very interested in your opinion as they get more play time. I love the looks too but would probably go with black

Please keep us posted.

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I agree that I think black would probably be the choice, but white is what our distributor had available to send and we thought they might match nicely with the new Hegel Rost, which is only available in white. Not the right room either for white, but this is just where we're trying them out now.

[Jack]

Joe

Wonder how the would sound with the Job 225 or even the Integrated?

[joeinid]

Jack,

I know FOR SURE that the Job INTegrated would be superb. I use mine on both of my JBLs and the Strads and love that little thing. Don't tell anyone, but I still want the Job 250 monos.

I could easily live with the Job INTegrated as my ONLY amp.

ps. reply email to follow late tonight.

Joe

Wonder how the would sound with the Job 225 or even the Integrated?

[Jack]

Well you just happen to have the perfect preamp for them. I'm going to break the 225 back out tomorrow and give it a try on the Spatials.

[bonzo]

Hi Everest, what are you driving them with? I heard them with 845 SETs, 25w

[Jack]

Hegel Rost. Srajen seemed to prefer them with the Clones over his higher priced combos.

[Everest Audio]

Yes, the Hegel Rost. The Rost is a new piece from Hegel that can be considered a scaled down version of their top H360 integrated. We're incredibly impressed with this little piece and thought it might be a great match. I'm sure we'll try some other product with the Heco once broken in, but we'll be using the Rost for now. Plus, our Rost is very new too, so we can break them both in at the same time.

[RDSChicago]

Everest, I was wondering if you can compare them with other wide baffle speakers you might have experienced like the Devore Orangutan's? Thanks!

[Jack]

When you contacted them about the long shipping time did they act like that was normal or something unusual?

[RDSChicago]

Jack,

i ordered them on Audiogon and the ad didn't say they weren't in stock. Then they asked me to pay the next day over their site, which I did. Then a few days later I asked for a tracking number. Then they said we're expecting a shipment from Europe in two weeks. This perturbed me as they never told me until then they weren't in stock. So 3 1/2 weeks later I emailed and canceled the order. I was issued a refund a few days later and that was it. Better business practices would dictate that the ad provide the product isn't in stock so the buyer is at least aware there will be a wait or decide whether to ask if payment can wait until product is in stock and ready to ship.

[Jack]

Thanks. I am debating on whether or not to be the guinea pig but I have both of their direct e-mail addresses and phone number so I will contact them directly about stock before buying. They are almost identical in size to my M3's so they would fit in the same general spot though they may not need to be as far from the back wall since down ported. My Management team likes the look of the Spatials so these should be acceptable even though Srajen's wife didn't like the look of them. Odd as some of his other speakers are more "different" looking.

[joeinid]

Jack,

I think from some of the tests that I've seen, the efficiency is not quite as high as advertised, possibly by 2-3 dB. NOT a deal killer for me.

[Jack]

Joe

I suspect you are correct and Srajen alluded to that. I found the same to be true of the Spatial's. If you look at Clayton's specs carefully that 93 db is only from the mid-range up which is why he shows then with 250 wpc amps. With a 40 wpc tube amp the bass was wanting. When I went with power they came alive. I suspect that even though they may be low power tube friendly with "show music" that with "real life" music they will need much more. I suspect the Nord, Nuprime ,Job 225 or Odyssey Kismet will make them realize their potential plus they would be going in a large room with multiple openings. In you setup I would guess the Ayre's or the Job Integrated would be it. Hard to push a woofer that big with "flea watt" power.

[joeinid]

I agree with all the above, even the Avantgardes have powered subs so the power requirement plus higher sensitivity makes them even more flea watt friendly.

[Everest Audio]

Everest, I was wondering if you can compare them with other wide baffle speakers you might have experienced like the Devore Orangutan's? Thanks!

Unfortunately, we just don't have personal experience with other wide baffle speakers, so I just can't compare. At this point, I'm even hesitant to say too much about the speakers until I feel we have some good hours on them. This is especially so since we're also running them with a Hegel piece that is quite new and needs additional break-in as well. First impression was very positive though.

[Pallen]

As no one else appears to have listened to these vs the Devore O's, I'll add a quick opinion. I listened to the Heco Direkt's on my recent speaker journey. They are good - for the money. They need less space than the Devore Orangutan's and are less fussy about placement. But if you have a medium to large sized room, the Heco's are not in the same league IMO. To my ear, the Devore O93's were more forceful, dynamic and delivered more tonal colour. For small rooms, the Heco's would be the better choice I believe.

[Everest Audio]

Thanks for your input Pallen. I agree that the Heco Direkt would be best suited for a smaller to medium sized room and I do believe they offer very good value for the money. I also wouldn't expect them to be in the same league as the Devore O/93 as the Devore is over double the price of the Heco.

[Kuoppis]

Is price today still an indicator for anything else than how big a price tag a manufacturer dares to put on a product without blushing (publicly)?

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[bonzo]

As no one else appears to have listened to these vs the Devore O's, I'll add a quick opinion. I listened to the Heco Direkt's on my recent speaker journey. They are good - for the money. They need less space than the Devore Orangutan's and are less fussy about placement. But if you have a medium to large sized room, the Heco's are not in the same league IMO. To my ear, the Devore O93's were more forceful, dynamic and delivered more tonal colour. For small rooms, the Heco's would be the better choice I believe.

Did you listen to the Heco Dreiklang, which are made for bigger rooms?

[Pallen]

Yes Everest, very true, the Devore O's are considerably more expensive and I should have made that clear. The Heco Direkt's are remarkably good value and a great option for small to medium rooms. I remember the high's being especially good - clean and well judged. Bonzo, I have not heard the Heco Dreiklang which was launched later. It looks very interesting. Kuoppis, my opinion is that with speakers, you do broadly get what you pay for - more so than with other hifi components anyway.

[hifinutt]

Did you listen to the Heco Dreiklang, which are made for bigger rooms?

funnily enough kedar I was asking guy sergeant [the uk importer] about the bigger heco speakers recently . the smaller direkt are certainly good for the money