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October 13, 2015, 05:15 PM #1
D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
http://dandagostino.com/products-mas...sic-stereo.php
Does anyone know if the Master Classic Stereo amp is the same Momentum Stereo amp in a less expensive case or are there parts differences to lessen the price?
Have you heard it and what do you think of it?
There is a 25 dB signal to noise ratio deficit with this amp compared to the Momentum Stereo.
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October 13, 2015, 05:45 PM #2
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
Hi Joe
I was able to hear the Master Classic compared to the D'agostino Momentum Integrated on the Wilson Sasha 2 with a Linn Streamer as the source. Just based on my subjective impression thought the Master Integrated was better and by a noticeable margin but still thought the Master Classic was great. The Master Classic seemed to have more bass and overall a slightly warmer and denser sound but seemed less detailed and didn't have the ultimate refinement of the integrated. The Master Classic also pretty massive in size.
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October 13, 2015, 05:58 PM #3
Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
For almost one third the price, I guess you can't have it all.
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October 13, 2015, 07:51 PM #4
Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
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October 13, 2015, 08:04 PM #5
Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
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October 13, 2015, 09:17 PM #6
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
Joe,
I've heard both, and the Classic Stereo is a fantastic amp for the price. It's *not* the guts of the Momentum integrated in a different case, but it's a similar project. It has more output transistors, for once, so it's even more powerful than the Momentum.
I believe that SNR ratio was given under a different measurement scenario. Don't read much into it.
I rank the D'Ag as good, if not better, than the monster Hegel H30, and the D'Ag is even cheaper (more powerful too!)
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October 13, 2015, 09:25 PM #7
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October 17, 2015, 09:31 AM #8
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
I heard both and honestly, I was hoping they would be close, but there's no comparison. I don't think the Classic Stereo is even the equal of the Krell Evo 402e. Surprisingly, the bass I expected just wasn't there. If you want Dagostino, you need to spend the extra money for the Momentum series.
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October 18, 2015, 04:52 PM #9
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
What did you use for speakers? Preamp? Source? Frankly, I thought the bass was amazing on it, with YG Haileys, in a fairly large room... Other people heard this setup when we did an event in the store, and not a single person mention lack of bass...
I've had the Krell 402e for a while in my setup, and the new stuff is miles ahead, specially in terms of refinement and transparency.
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October 18, 2015, 05:24 PM #10
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
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October 18, 2015, 08:55 PM #11
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
I think I know where the problem lies... But it's not for me to say...
One thing, though: I was not a big fan of the old Krell stuff. I find these new amps (both the Momentum as well as the Classic Stereo) Dan's best designs, by far. Maybe because they ARE very different.
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
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June 17, 2016, 09:08 AM #13
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June 17, 2016, 09:08 AM #14
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June 17, 2016, 09:10 AM #15
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This monster was installed yesterday, totally Awesome!!Caribbean Distributor of
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June 17, 2016, 03:36 PM #16
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Its a monster alright , any technical info ..? Thoughts ..?
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June 17, 2016, 03:43 PM #17
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Doesn't get hot and it breaks in at around 100hours
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June 17, 2016, 03:43 PM #18
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Nice deep end bass control
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June 17, 2016, 04:35 PM #19
Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
Great news Nelson! Looks beautiful too.
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June 17, 2016, 06:28 PM #21
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Thanks , Joe
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June 18, 2016, 07:58 AM #22
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Great looking system Nelson!
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November 27, 2016, 10:33 PM #24
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Any more detailed impressions in the meantime?
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November 28, 2016, 12:24 PM #25
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
If you were doing a multi channel set up is there an amp that mate's up?
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December 1, 2016, 04:34 PM #27
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Re: D'Agostino Master Classic Power Stereo Amplifier ….
Yep!
http://dandagostino.com/products-master-power-3.php [3 channel]
http://dandagostino.com/products-master-power-2.php [2 channel]
Those can be put away in a rack/closet, and have easy HT integration.
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