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    Re: Axpona 2015 - Best...and not so best of....

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    thanks for the show report and the effort. if you'd like some constructive criticism--and I very well might be in the minority--but I think the high end needs to market itself more effectively to younger people and you could use your platform to do it more.
    As you can see we reach a wide age demographic. We have more under the age of 44 than over!

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    That's really great Peter. I would have never guessed that by looking down the halls at shows.
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    Re: Axpona 2015 - Best...and not so best of....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Breuninger View Post
    As you can see we reach a wide age demographic. We have more under the age of 44 than over!

    The old 55 and up age blanket which I reside just keeps getting smaller and smaller, why! maybe it has to do with our hearing, our budgets and other important priorities in life.
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    Peter - that's very interesting. I would suspect the headphone crowd helps those demographic numbers. Also, in one of the rooms, I was pleasantly surprised to have sat beside two lovely ladies who were hard core audiophiles. They told me they were both single professionals and loved music. We discussed their gear (all top drawer stuff) and what their plans were for system improvements. They were very impressed with the Resolution Acoustics room and both were seeking better ways to treat their rooms.
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    Re: Axpona 2015 - Best...and not so best of....

    Quote Originally Posted by the professor View Post
    That's really great Peter. I would have never guessed that by looking down the halls at shows.
    my guess is more like a lot of older audiophiles don't use the internet as much as younger ones, which skews the distribution.

    i think the subject material could have also been more representative of a younger audiophile and having a John Darko type on the panel would have reached a broader audience. again, this is just my opinion and could be worth a grain of salt. I do enjoy Peter's enthusiasm which comes through wonderfully on camera.
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    Peter, how is that information gathered? Is that from registrations?


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    As you can see we reach a wide age demographic. We have more under the age of 44 than over!
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    Peter, how is that information gathered? Is that from registrations?
    Intersting question. I have never provided my age when I register for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dminches View Post
    Peter, how is that information gathered? Is that from registrations?
    LoL

    Your profession is showing. PhillipAC from ACircle though retired is also from the same profession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    LoL

    Your profession is showing. PhillipAC from ACircle though retired is also from the same profession.
    Yea. I have spent my life understanding data and making sure it is used in a manner consistent with how it is gathered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the professor View Post
    That's really great Peter. I would have never guessed that by looking down the halls at shows.
    Me too! I haven't seen as many walkers and canes like I saw at Axpona 2015 since the last time I went to a Steely Dan concert.
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    Actually there's been a change in delivery - and unlike most reviews - for the better. Nick's coming by Wed. to drop the 3.0 phono stage off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor View Post
    Actually there's been a change in delivery - and unlike most reviews - for the better. Nick's coming by Wed. to drop the 3.0 phono stage by.

    Great news Myles!
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    My least favorite rooms were the Martin Logan. Every ML room we went into sounded bright. I don't know if it was the music, room acoustics or the gear. Even my friends that were with me complained about the ML's sounding bright.

    The Quad room was also a disappointment. I had never heard Quad's before and they were not my cup of tea and that's coming from a Maggie owner.
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    Axpona 2015 - Best...and not so best of....

    It asked me for my age range when I purchased my tickets on line. Glad to see I helped bring down the average age a bit

    No headphones for me either

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    Re: Axpona 2015 - Best...and not so best of....

    Quote Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor View Post
    Actually there's been a change in delivery - and unlike most reviews - for the better. Nick's coming by Wed. to drop the 3.0 phono stage off.
    Great Myles. I think I win the prize for asking you the most times when you where going to get it in. Looking forward to your thoughts.

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    Great Myles. I think I win the prize for asking you the most times when you where going to get it in. Looking forward to your thoughts.



    Now just have to get the phono cable Jim mentioned from Transparent.

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    Nick's phono! Ask him for the tape stage instead

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    Myles,

    What did you think of the High Water Sound room? I believe Jeffrey was utilizing the Audia Flight amplifiers with Verity speakers, TW Acustic Raven GT SE table and Tron phono stage.
    Jeff had no Tron this time. The phono stage was a 3 input soon to be remote controllable, by TW Acustic for $14k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dminches View Post
    Yea. I have spent my life understanding data and making sure it is used in a manner consistent with how it is gathered.
    Yup and in that field you MUST be very good at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Peter - that's very interesting. I would suspect the headphone crowd helps those demographic numbers. Also, in one of the rooms, I was pleasantly surprised to have sat beside two lovely ladies who were hard core audiophiles. They told me they were both single professionals and loved music. We discussed their gear (all top drawer stuff) and what their plans were for system improvements. They were very impressed with the Resolution Acoustics room and both were seeking better ways to treat their rooms.
    Did you tell them to come here to post? More ladies here can only "class up the joint". LoL. Seriously, they sound hard core and could have a lot to contribute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Peter - that's very interesting. I would suspect the headphone crowd helps those demographic numbers. Also, in one of the rooms, I was pleasantly surprised to have sat beside two lovely ladies who were hard core audiophiles. They told me they were both single professionals and loved music. We discussed their gear (all top drawer stuff) and what their plans were for system improvements. They were very impressed with the Resolution Acoustics room and both were seeking better ways to treat their rooms.
    Interestingly, we don't do headphones, perhaps 10 out of 1500 videos has headphone oriented themes (Canjam- walk through, stuff like that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Breuninger View Post
    Interestingly, we don't do headphones, perhaps 10 out of 1500 videos has headphone oriented themes (Canjam- walk through, stuff like that).
    I misunderstood. I thought we were looking at Axpona attendee demographics. My apologies.

    Anyway, the stats do look very promising. Good to see some younger folks taking an interest.

    Would be very curious as to how you collect the data, since I've watch a lot of your videos, but don't recall entering my personal data. Perhaps this is from YouTube when people log in through their YouTube accounts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I misunderstood. I thought we were looking at Axpona attendee demographics. My apologies.

    Anyway, the stats do look very promising. Good to see some younger folks taking an interest.

    Would be very curious as to how you collect the data, since I've watch a lot of your videos, but don't recall entering my personal data. Perhaps this is from YouTube when people log in through their YouTube accounts?
    You know Mike you raised a good question. How does Peter get those demographic numbers. I just watched a couple AVShow Axpona 2015 youtube videos, and I didn't log in nor did I subscribe.
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    The numbers are pure Youtube viewer demographics for that one channel.

    I don't subscribe to any Youtube channels either. I suspect our data miners at Google/Youtube triangulate each view based on cookies and sites last visited.

    Trust me, "they" know everything about us. That one form that we filled in our age five years ago... that's part of our IP address data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Breuninger View Post
    The numbers are pure Youtube viewer demographics for that one channel.

    I don't subscribe to any Youtube channels either. I suspect our data miners at Google/Youtube triangulate each view based on cookies and sites last visited.

    Trust me, "they" know everything about us. That one form that we filled in our age five years ago... that's part of our IP address data.
    You're right Peter. If anyone was to dig into a Google Adword campaign and the tools they have available, it's SPOOKY!


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    Here is the link:

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    Thanks Peter! The three of you in the Axpona report are the best three you've ever had IMO. Great great job!
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    http://www.ultrahighendreview.com/axpona-2015-coverage/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor View Post


    I'm biased but think this is our best effort yet to date!

    Just got the time to listen to this. Well done overall presentations gentlemen. Thanks.

    That said, Peter, I love you dude, but the HFT's again....really? I must be a dumbo-head but I just can not (even a little bit) believe this is anything but psychological. Frankly, when I hear you say such things it just makes me question all of your otherwise very thoughtful insights. Someone please give me any remotely plausible explanation as to how these can impact SQ. I am always happy to learn and I will must humbly apologize to our friend Peter if I am missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    funny, i found this video a bit unnatural sounding. there is hardly any instrument decay. admittedly, its a youtube video so might be hard to judge that component.
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    LMAO judging the sound of equipment via YouTube.
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    Funny,

    On my desk top speakers I was impressed, Especially because it's a youtube video, I heard it as Peter called it , the sound of the cello was fantastic, his comments sealed the deal, they are serious speakers, would love to hear them .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    funny, i found this video a bit unnatural sounding. there is hardly any instrument decay. admittedly, its a youtube video so might be hard to judge that component.
    Your youtube PC needs some HFT's. That will fix it up fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlexibleAudio View Post
    Your youtube PC needs some HFT's. That will fix it up fine.
    LOL.
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