Salon 2's.....Home Again

**MDP** · January 9, 2015, 07:13 PM

I got my Salon 2's set up today ! I was worried that they might not be as good as I remembered, I was worrying for no reason. They sound just great, actually better than I remembered.

I'm sure that the Hegel H30 has something to do with that for sure. It's a match made in heaven. I'm sure they will get a little better when they get a few hours on them, but so far, I'd be fully satisfied if they stayed right where they are now.

So, maybe you can go home again

**joeinid** · January 9, 2015, 07:18 PM

That's awesome Mark! I love those speakers even if some consider them long in the tooth. They are wonderful speakers.

**MDP** · January 9, 2015, 07:24 PM

When the Salon 3's come out, I might make a move. But until that day I will remain a turtle.

**joeinid** · January 9, 2015, 07:29 PM

**Ritmo** · January 9, 2015, 07:31 PM

Fantastic news Mark! Very happy for you and Susan. Enjoy the music...

And, now focus on getting the new house built.

**Odyssey** · January 9, 2015, 07:40 PM

Mark, you've come full circle. Now you know how happy you are!! Congrats on the Salon 2's. Sounds like they will be in place for a very long time. All the best!

**Mike** · January 9, 2015, 07:45 PM

Congrats Mark!

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**MikeCh** · January 9, 2015, 08:29 PM

Great news Mark! Have fun.

**Alpinist** · January 9, 2015, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by MDP

I got my Salon 2's set up today ! I was worried that they might not be as good as I remembered, I was worrying for no reason. They sound just great, actually better than I remembered.

I'm sure that the Hegel H30 has something to do with that for sure. It's a match made in heaven. I'm sure they will get a little better when they get a few hours on them, but so far, I'd be fully satisfied if they stayed right where they are now.

So, maybe you can go home again

Congratulations Mark!!! You've come full circle. The Salon 2's are terrific loudspeakers and a clear window to the music. They will sound as great as whatever signal you feed them, there's no cap. We probably could have made each others life a lot easier if we just traded loudspeakers!

Enjoy,
Ken

**Mike** · January 9, 2015, 08:49 PM

Now all you need Mark is these....

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**BruceLet** · January 9, 2015, 08:54 PM

Congratulations Mark! I love my Salon 2s. We've gone down such similar paths. As you know, I went from the Studio 2s, to the D3s and now the Salon 2s. I can't imagine a speaker that would beat these in my room.

**MDP** · January 9, 2015, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Alpinist

Congratulations Mark!!! You've come full circle. The Salon 2's are terrific loudspeakers and a clear window to the music. They will sound as great as whatever signal you feed them, there's no cap. We probably could have made each others life a lot easier if we just traded loudspeakers!

Enjoy,
Ken

You've got that right Ken !

**MDP** · January 9, 2015, 09:59 PM

I just want to say thank you to everyone !!

Life can be a strange journey.

**MDP** · January 9, 2015, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

Now all you need Mark is these....

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I know how much you love tubes with Salon's !!

**FlexibleAudio** · January 9, 2015, 10:10 PM

Congrats Mark!!! Something to be said about familiar confines.

**MDP** · January 9, 2015, 10:18 PM

Thanks Paul !

It's lIke putting on your favorite sweatshirt.

**MikeCh** · January 9, 2015, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by MDP

I know how much you love tubes with Salon's !!

Mike's not alone with having tubes somewhere in "there". Perhaps a tube preamp for the Hegel?

I know you love the Classe' CP800 but just sayin.....might be worth a little experimentation-venture?

**MDP** · January 9, 2015, 10:21 PM

Mike, I'm always willing to try anything.

David wants me to try the Levinson No.52 pre.

He thinks it's one of the best he's ever heard, and he has a full Solution 700 series system.

**Alpinist** · January 9, 2015, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by MDP

Mike, I'm always willing to try anything.

David wants me to try the Levinson No.52 pre.

He thinks it's one of the best he's ever heard, and he has a full Solution 700 series system.

ML makes terrific preamps!

**Glareskin** · January 10, 2015, 09:02 AM

Congratulations Mark!

You are very brave being loyal to your own taste. I admire you for that. I hope you'll have a lot of fun enjoying your new babies.

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by MikeCh

Mike's not alone with having tubes somewhere in "there". Perhaps a tube preamp for the Hegel?

I know you love the Classe' CP800 but just sayin.....might be worth a little experimentation-venture?

Mike, when I had my Revel's with ARC REF 250's, I shot this video:

http://youtu.be/CTy4yS9wdqA

Some will likely say this just proves the meters were inaccurate, but let me tell you, the amps weren't breaking a sweat and sounded incredible.

The REF250's took the Revel's to a totally different level and proved just how ballsy these amps are. The synergy was scary good. I also had 2301's on my Salon 2's.

I know Joe had CJ monos on his Revel's and Bruce had Mc 275's on his Revel's.

**MDP** · January 10, 2015, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Glareskin

Congratulations Mark!

You are very brave being loyal to your own taste. I admire you for that. I hope you'll have a lot of fun enjoying your new babies.

Thanks Hans !
Hopefully you can travel to Dallas soon,and hear them for yourself.

**MikeCh** · January 10, 2015, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

Mike, when I had my Revel's with ARC REF 250's, I shot this video:

http://youtu.be/CTy4yS9wdqA

Some will likely say this just proves the meters were inaccurate, but let me tell you, the amps weren't breaking a sweat and sounded incredible.

The REF250's took the Revel's to a totally different level and proved just how ballsy these amps are. The synergy was scary good. I also had 2301's on my Salon 2's.

I know Joe had CJ monos on his Revel's and Bruce had Mc 275's on his Revel's.

Holy crap Mike! Output peaks of 101db while using a watt or so of power! Thanks for sharing.

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by MikeCh

Holy crap Mike! Output peaks of 101db while using a watt or so of power! Thanks for sharing.

The synergy was a "holy crap" moment too. I think Joe had a similar experience with his CJ ART monos on the Revels.

**joeinid** · January 10, 2015, 10:19 AM

I did. I loved my Studio2 and ART monos so much that I think the Salons would be even better.

Originally Posted by Mike

The synergy was a "holy crap" moment too. I think Joe had a similar experience with his CJ ART monos on the Revels.

**Alpinist** · January 10, 2015, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by joeinid

I did. I loved my Studio2 and ART monos so much that I think the Salons would be even better.

With all this love for the Salon 2's, I may have to hold onto mine just in case!

Ken

**MDP** · January 10, 2015, 11:49 AM

I am so content ! It's so nice to not think about anything but how GREAT the music sounds

**Alpinist** · January 10, 2015, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by MDP

I am so content ! It's so nice to not think about anything but how GREAT the music sounds

That's terrific Mark. That is one of the things I love most about the Salon 2's, their ability to just disappear and allow you to enjoy the music. They do not bring any undue attention to themselves, no sibilance or boomy bass. Just a clear window to the music.

Best,
Ken

**MDP** · January 10, 2015, 12:22 PM

Thanks Ken !

**Paul** · January 10, 2015, 12:25 PM

Mark. Big Congrats ! must be nice relief now. Enjoy with great health . What color did you get ?

**MDP** · January 10, 2015, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Paul

Mark. Big Congrats ! must be nice relief now. Enjoy with great health . What color did you get ?

Thanks Paul, I got the Mahogany !!

**Alpinist** · January 10, 2015, 01:53 PM

The Mahogany is really beautiful. I have the piano black which is pretty nice too.

Ken

**mep** · January 10, 2015, 02:07 PM

Mark-Congrats and let me be the first to say GLWS!

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by mep

Mark-Congrats and let me be the first to say GLWS!

LMAO!

**FlexibleAudio** · January 10, 2015, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by mep

Mark-Congrats and let me be the first to say GLWS!

Ok Mep, I must confess, you truly are a funny guy.

**MDP** · January 10, 2015, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by mep

Mark-Congrats and let me be the first to say GLWS!

I deserve that ! Lol

**puroagave** · January 10, 2015, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by joeinid

I did. I loved my Studio2 and ART monos so much that I think the Salons would be even better.

do tell, the ART amps have plenty of drive for the studios? i've been eyeing a pair of Studio 2s to mate up with my 200w tube amps.

**joeinid** · January 10, 2015, 03:38 PM

It was an amazing combo. Just ask Mark. I could not get to sleep for a week because I wanted to stay up and play music. It filled my room with beautiful music. I think the Salon2 are even better and would be more seamless, full and meaty with sweet vocals. I think the Revels benefit from great tube gear. Tubes bring the music forward into the room with you. I loved it and will eventually add Salon2 or the next generation back to my room. ART monos are 275 wpc with plenty of drive. Your VTL's are awesome and would be just as good. Sweet EL-34's? I loved a pair of MB250's back in the day.

Originally Posted by puroagave

do tell, the ART amps have plenty of drive for the studios? i've been eyeing a pair of Studio 2s to mate up with my 200w tube amps.

**FlexibleAudio** · January 10, 2015, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by puroagave

do tell, the ART amps have plenty of drive for the studios? i've been eyeing a pair of Studio 2s to mate up with my 200w tube amps.

I looked close at buying the Salon 2's a couple of years ago. From what I remember current is very important. I think they run 3 to 5 ohms up to about 500hz. I would be careful with tubes that have to high of an output impedance. The ARC 250's have balls, but not all tube amps are created equal with current availability. (That said, I am not familiar with your VTL's or the Studio 2's in this regard.)

**puroagave** · January 10, 2015, 04:06 PM

Thanks Joe. I actually have two pairs of 225 monos, one takes el34/KT90s the other 6550/KT88s. the Salons might actually have too much bass for my room, ill check them out.

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by puroagave

the Salons might have too much bass for my room.

Not a chance. They are downward firing and have bass adjustability on the back of the speaker. The Revel Studio 2's are also worth checking out if your room is small. Same amazing tweeter and adjustability.

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**puroagave** · January 10, 2015, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

Not a chance. They are downward firing and have bass adjustability on the back of the speaker. The Revel Studio 2's are also worth checking out if your room is small. Same amazing tweeter and adjustability.

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okay, didn't know that. I don't think the Salon 1 had adjustable bass. now my interest is piqued.

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by puroagave

okay, didn't know that. I don't think the Salon 1 had adjustable bass. now my interest is piqued.

I don't think it did either. Check out the Revel Studio 2 if your room is a little small. It's the same speaker except for two less bass drivers. Doesn't go down quite as low (obviously), but otherwise, almost indistinguishable from it's big brother. I've owned both the Salon 2 and Studio 2. The Studio 2 is also a little easier to drive.

**joeinid** · January 10, 2015, 04:21 PM

Rob,

How big is your room? A friend has Salon2 in maybe a 12x13' room and it's wonderful.

**puroagave** · January 10, 2015, 04:42 PM

Joe, my room is large with a vaulted ceiling the issue I have is 'bass bloom' due to the wood sub-floor. Our home is split level and there's 3' of crawl space under the music room. the cavity acts like the body of a wood instrument and boosts the bass (in a bad way). It will require a major remodel to remedy.

**joeinid** · January 10, 2015, 05:29 PM

Hi Rob,

I know what you mean. I have a crawl space under my listening room, unlike the rest of the house. I seem to be lucky, I don't think I have any problems.

Originally Posted by puroagave

Joe, my room is large with a vaulted ceiling the issue I have is 'bass bloom' due to the wood sub-floor. Our home is split level and there's 3' of crawl space under the music room. the cavity acts like the body of a wood instrument and boosts the bass (in a bad way). It will require a major remodel to remedy.

**Paul** · January 10, 2015, 05:51 PM

**Glareskin** · January 10, 2015, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by MDP

Thanks Paul, I got the Mahogany !!

Photo's please!

**MDP** · January 10, 2015, 06:01 PM

Actually, Salon 2's play very well in small rooms. I've heard them in those rooms and the bass does not overwhelm the room.

**MDP** · January 10, 2015, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Glareskin

Photo's please!

Hans, I will try to take some photos tomorrow.

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