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February 15, 2015, 11:04 PM #51
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February 16, 2015, 11:53 AM #52
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Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Here's something I discovered re: Stillpoints, that I found very curious, and others probably would as well. When I got my Stillpoints, I already had protective brass discs to put under them so as not to mar the furniture. As a whim, I auditioned these (whoever the manufacturer was who made them) with the Stillpoint versisons. Mind you they looked the same...same size, heft, dimple on them....yet....the Stillpoint version sounded appreciably better than the faux discs. ...interesting...
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February 17, 2015, 12:50 PM #53
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Just got them !!!!
Ultra 6
OMG
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Kuzma / Focal / Resonessence Labs / ARIA / KRELL / Pro-Ject...
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February 17, 2015, 12:51 PM #54
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Sent from my iPhoneCaribbean Distributor of
ARC / Sonus Faber / Wadia / Wilson / VAC / Soulution / Nordost / Shunyata / Stillpoints
Kuzma / Focal / Resonessence Labs / ARIA / KRELL / Pro-Ject...
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February 17, 2015, 01:02 PM #55
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Looks impressive
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February 21, 2015, 10:58 AM #56
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Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Put Stillpoint Ultra SS under my Evolution Acoustics MM3 speakers - 600lbs each!
System never sounded better!
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February 24, 2015, 12:26 PM #57
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Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
I would attribute this to the materials difference, brass .vs. stainless steel. We listened to a lot of different materials and kept coming back to the stainless for its tonal neutrality and speed. Other materials imparted different signatures, usually perceived as slower and less transparent. The same applies to our acrylic shelf .vs. the Grid shelf on our ESS racks. The acrylic sounds slower and laid back in a not-good way.
JohnJohn Tverdik
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April 18, 2015, 09:03 PM #58
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Anyone using Stillpoints under a Lumin? If so, which model? SS or Mini?
Was there an improvement? (Not that the Lumin needs much improvement )If so, in what way?
Thx!_______________
Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
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Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
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Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
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April 18, 2015, 10:16 PM #59
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Hi Ritmo, Loop4fun has them under his Lumin I believe. It was the first place he tried them and was pretty much sold. I think he started with Mini's but am not sure he upgraded to the Ultra SS' although I know he recently orderednd received a new set of SS. I'm sure he'll chime in about his experiences. Olskool
ARC Ref 210 Mono's, ARC Ref 5SE, ARC Ref Phono2, NordostTyr1interconnects, NAD M5 CD/SACD, Linn LP12, Ekos 1, Booplinth, Lyra Delos cart, Kore, HRS1 Isolation table, Pioneer RT-707 Reel, Wilson Sophia, Nordost Tyr speaker cables, Kubala Sosna Emotion Interconnects / Power Cable, QB4 conditioner, StillPoint SS Isolation, StillPoint Aperatures, Nordost Power cables, ASC Tube Traps
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April 18, 2015, 10:33 PM #60
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Hi Larry! Great to hear from you. Hope to read Bill's experience soon. Take care!
Mike_______________
Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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April 18, 2015, 10:42 PM #61
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Originally Posted by Ritmo;122473[B
Ultra SS under the A-1, Mini's under the PS & NAS. The torque provided by the Shunyata Sigma Digital PC to the PS necessitated the addition of extra weight (brick) to stabilize. This technique is often effective with light weight components and Stillpoints.
The improvement is in all the categories others have well articulated elsewhere about Stillpoints, and Shunyata Sigma Digital PC's too.Tom
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SME 20/2 table with SME V arm, Stillpoints LPI
Minus-K BM-8 passive vibration control under tt
Dynavector XV-1s, Koeitsu Rosewood Signature cartridges, Klaudio RCM
Roon Nucleus+ powered by Keces P-8 LPS
Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
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Shunyata Omega PC to Everest for all source devices
Typhon for each amp powered by 2 dedicated circuits
Various Shunyata Alpha & Sigma PC's throughout.
Stillpoints under everything.
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Sound Lab Ultimate-545PX Speakers
Shunyata Hydra 8, Typhon QR
Various Shunyata Alpha & Sigma PC's throughout
Stillpoints under everything. Multiple room acoustic panels.
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April 18, 2015, 10:54 PM #62
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Thx Tom!
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Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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July 3, 2015, 10:06 AM #63
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Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Are vibration dampeners recommended under the NAS? I'm using Lumin's L1. I have it located off the rack, so it's vibrations can't resonate with any other components.
But is there a reason related to sound quality to dissipate the vibrations in the NAS itself? Thanks.Source: Taiko Audio Server, Cisco 2960 Switch, Gigafoil, Lampizator Pacific Dac. Amp: Bakoon 13r Speakers: AvantGarde Duo Mezzo XD, Cables: Alan Maher Designs Power, Duelund Speaker, Shunyata Sigma IC's Audioquest Diamond ethernet. Room Treatment Vicoustic.
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July 3, 2015, 07:52 PM #64
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I just, this afternoon, started trying out the Stillpoint ultra minis under the Lumin. My first impression is that, while there is an increase in resolution, there also seems some loss of depth which makes the overall sound more thin. Not good. Maybe it's not a compliment to my system which uses Amphion studio monitors, which already give a very resolved, transparent sound. And maybe it would be a different story once I have the integrated bass extenders Amphion will release later this Summer.
I'll listen more before I have to return. Maybe I'll try the ss ultras to see what they bring.Source: Taiko Audio Server, Cisco 2960 Switch, Gigafoil, Lampizator Pacific Dac. Amp: Bakoon 13r Speakers: AvantGarde Duo Mezzo XD, Cables: Alan Maher Designs Power, Duelund Speaker, Shunyata Sigma IC's Audioquest Diamond ethernet. Room Treatment Vicoustic.
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July 3, 2015, 09:28 PM #65
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Tom
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SoundLab Dealer
Country System:
SoundLab Ultimate-1PX Electrostatic Speakers
Pass Labs XP-32 pre, Pass Labs XA60.8 Amps
Pass Lab XP-27 phono stage
SME 20/2 table with SME V arm, Stillpoints LPI
Minus-K BM-8 passive vibration control under tt
Dynavector XV-1s, Koeitsu Rosewood Signature cartridges, Klaudio RCM
Roon Nucleus+ powered by Keces P-8 LPS
Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
3 dedicated AC lines
Shunyata Omega PC to Everest for all source devices
Typhon for each amp powered by 2 dedicated circuits
Various Shunyata Alpha & Sigma PC's throughout.
Stillpoints under everything.
City System:
Ayre KX-R Twenty Preamp
Pass Labs X-260.8 Monoblocks
Esoteric K-03 SACD Player
Roon Nucleus+powered by UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS
Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
Sound Lab Ultimate-545PX Speakers
Shunyata Hydra 8, Typhon QR
Various Shunyata Alpha & Sigma PC's throughout
Stillpoints under everything. Multiple room acoustic panels.
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July 18, 2015, 05:12 PM #66
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Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
After a lot more back and forth testing of Stillpoints, I've concluded they're not worth it to me. The sound difference, with ss Ultra's on Lumin S1 and mini's on PSU, is minor and I think I prefer the sound without them anyway. I sense a little more resolution with the points, but a subtle loss of "presence" and fullness. And the difference is subtle enough that, on a blind test, I guessed wrong 50% of the time!
I wonder if the Lumin with it's heavy aluminum block casing is relatively imperious to vibration to begin with?
I'm going to try some Symposium Svelt platforms on the Lumin, it's psu and the monitors. I am curious to see how isolation might effect these speakers. I'm betting they will sound better without as they are already on the bright and high resolving side.
I think treating the room for reflections will end up being the most productive "tweak."Source: Taiko Audio Server, Cisco 2960 Switch, Gigafoil, Lampizator Pacific Dac. Amp: Bakoon 13r Speakers: AvantGarde Duo Mezzo XD, Cables: Alan Maher Designs Power, Duelund Speaker, Shunyata Sigma IC's Audioquest Diamond ethernet. Room Treatment Vicoustic.
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July 18, 2015, 05:23 PM #67
Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
Wilco, looking forward to your findings. What's your floor type? Concrete? Wood? Subfloor wood?
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July 18, 2015, 05:26 PM #68
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Source: Taiko Audio Server, Cisco 2960 Switch, Gigafoil, Lampizator Pacific Dac. Amp: Bakoon 13r Speakers: AvantGarde Duo Mezzo XD, Cables: Alan Maher Designs Power, Duelund Speaker, Shunyata Sigma IC's Audioquest Diamond ethernet. Room Treatment Vicoustic.
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July 18, 2015, 08:10 PM #69
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Re: Stillpoints and System Foundation
And this is not to say its bad with points. With some music that's lower frequency dominant, it's somewhat better. Just not $3k better.
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July 18, 2015, 09:06 PM #70
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July 24, 2015, 04:04 PM #72
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Source: Taiko Audio Server, Cisco 2960 Switch, Gigafoil, Lampizator Pacific Dac. Amp: Bakoon 13r Speakers: AvantGarde Duo Mezzo XD, Cables: Alan Maher Designs Power, Duelund Speaker, Shunyata Sigma IC's Audioquest Diamond ethernet. Room Treatment Vicoustic.
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