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    Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Searching for the bed room system.

    Will power the small book shelf speakers.

    Rogers LS3/5A or DeVORE 3XL.

    Don't want to break the bank. my budget is under 3K.

    My choices are so far ....

    1. Unison Research Simply Italy





    I heard them with Bryston's Mini speakers and I was impressed.

    2. Cary CAD 300SEI



    3. Manley Stingray



    And I am more lean in to no 1.

    Anybody heard them before ?
    Oh...Also will purchase the small REL sub ( perhaps the T5 )
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    If you don't know the speakers. Here they are

    Rogers LS3/5A



    requency response: 80Hz-20kHz ±3dB at 1m with grilles on. Sensitivity: 82dB/W/m. Nominal impedance: 16 ohms (1977-1984); 10 ohms (1989 onward). Amplifier requirements: 50W maximum

    Devore 3XL



    Frequency Response:45Hz-40kHz
    Sensitivity: 90db /W/M
    Impedance: 8 Ohms
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Cary....all day long. 300b over EL34 all night long.
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Cary....all day long. 300b over EL34 all night long.
    Mike Don't you like the voice on EL34 over 300B ?
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    No. I like the voice on 300b over EL34. My favorite tubes are (in order): 300b, 845, 211, EL34, KT88, KT90, KT120.
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Where's Steve and Doug?
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    Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Paul, you ask us to make a choice between A-B or C and as a true audiophile I will answer other. My choice would go for an ARC VSI 60. Can be found used only nowadays but an amazing little integrated for the price.
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    Paul - if you go with the Rogers, the Cary's would be out due to efficiency. What about a pair of Klipsch Palladium P-17B's? The Cary's would be pretty sweet for those.
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    Chinesse : MINGDA

    contact Robert Lee from acoustic zen
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    Kuzma / Focal / Resonessence Labs / ARIA / KRELL / Pro-Ject...

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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    No I can't give up on Rogers speakers. They are truly special for what it does
    Paul

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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Dan never heard them let me look for them. .

    Nelson. So far only chi-fi products I like is LM and Audio Space
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Paul if you're looking for an inexpensive integrated take a look at the Line Magnetic LM211. EL34's with 15 watts triode or 32 watts ultra linear mode. If I remember correctly they are around $1650.00, are point to point wired and sound amazing for the money. A no-nonsense amp that will match up great with those speakers.



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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Another great little amp is the Audio Vista i34. 35 watts of sweet EL34 power and amazingly good for just under 1k. I had one of these amps for a couple of years and kick myself for getting rid of it.


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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Good recommendations Doug...But Nothing around my area ....


    Any body heard any of my 3 choices though ???
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Paul, sometimes you just have to dive in head first.
    There's a reason why you don't see many LM amps on the used market...


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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    Paul, sometimes you just have to dive in head first.
    There's a reason why you don't see many LM amps on the used market...


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    Are you saying they didn't sell enough ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh View Post
    Are you saying they didn't sell enough ?



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    If you like EL34 tube or KT88 both sound nice, well built and won't break the bank......

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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Hey Jeff thanks for chime in. No KT88. What is the price for this ?
    Paul

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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh View Post
    Hey Jeff thanks for chime in. No KT88. What is the price for this ?
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Quote Originally Posted by A/V Solutions View Post
    2450
    Thanks Jeff.
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    sorry i gotta put this up there cause its so frickin cool!! i think there like $900, and just 10w, and as soon as my work picks up in spring im buying one!!!
    the baby sophia


    read this http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/sophia_baby_e.html

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    Steve, isn't she a looker, not balanced but???

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    I've used this integrated with great results…..not the most tubelike, but great detail and sweetness.

    PATHOS

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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Quote Originally Posted by BruceLet View Post
    I've used this integrated with great results…..not the most tubelike, but great detail and sweetness.

    PATHOS
    +1 ive heard this pathos ,its a great setup, and a beauty, it really pumped out the music into a pair of joseph pulsars.
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Thanks guys for all the recommendations.

    I just purchased one

    I had to stick with my original plan. coz I just can't give up on beautiful sounds coming out from the EL34.

    Thanks again.
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    What did you get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    What did you get?
    Simply Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh View Post
    Simply Italy.
    So you bought a sports car instead? A nice red Ferrari maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    So you bought a sports car instead? A nice red Ferrari maybe?
    Pick the Black With 25 hp. Ha!
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    Let us know how it sounds with the new speakers Paul. Now you can start thinking about which NOS tubes to put in it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    Let us know how it sounds with the new speakers Paul. Now you can start thinking about which NOS tubes to put in it!
    Already ordered the psavne black treasure for now
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh View Post
    Already ordered the psavne black treasure for now
    Nice! When does the amp arrive?
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    Re: Integrated Tube Amp for bed room.

    Hopefully in 2 days
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh View Post
    Hopefully in 2 days
    sweet paul!!!! congrats!! and good tubes to start out with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petro85 View Post
    sweet paul!!!! congrats!! and good tubes to start out with.
    Thanks Steve.

    I checked the fedEX. I think I'm getting it tomorrow
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    Congratulations Paul. Can't wait to see a photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh View Post
    Thanks Steve.

    I checked the fedEX. I think I'm getting it tomorrow
    You gotta' love getting new toys. (and you've been getting a lot of them lately!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    You gotta' love getting new toys. (and you've been getting a lot of them lately!)
    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Congratulations Paul. Can't wait to see a photo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Congratulations Paul. Can't wait to see a photo.
    Joe,,,I didn't know you have the C2300 . WOW.
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    Hi Paul,

    I wanted one before they were all gone. It's great!

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    Joe,,,I didn't know you have the C2300 . WOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh View Post


    looks a little square and boxy, i was expecting it to look alot nicer.lmao!!!!!
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    Hey Paul, where's the update buddy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    Hey Paul, where's the update buddy?
    Here are some pictures.









    listen to them with Rogers LS3/5A with 12 Watts....I'm so confused.....Why do I need a monster set up ??? Seriously....Why ?

    Darn sounds good. I can easily live with them as my main...I mean ...It's got every thing...High ...Mid...Bass...

    The fit and finish is top notch...The knobs on volume and selector are as good as Shindo gears.
    Also the remote is made by wood and metal and obviously better than my McIntosh's remote.

    Hmmm.....Simply Italy .....Highly recommended.
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    BTW....the tube is Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z(EL34) the Psvane's are on the way as well.

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    awesome paul!!!!! congrats. ive given up on the big watts myself.
    now get yourself one of them unison research turntables .lol.
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    Looks great Paul! I see you wasted no time in putting the Shuguang's in there, nice. You see, there's no need to hide that sweet little amp in your bedroom! A bazillion watts and some big-ass monster speakers, who needs them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    Looks great Paul! I see you wasted no time in putting the Shuguang's in there, nice. You see, there's no need to hide that sweet little amp in your bedroom! A bazillion watts and some big-ass monster speakers, who needs them.
    lmao ,the main room will be unison integrated and 096's in no time.lol.
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    Just for curiosity I paired them with my main speakers ( Music speakers )

    How this 12 watts can drive these monster speakers so ease ??? Anyone can explain ? When I had a Master sound 845 Int amp. It was having a hard time to push the driver's but this little machine has a no problem.....Hmmm.
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The AudioShark forum was created for sharing the passion of high-end Audio. We have Audiophiles from all over the world participating and sharing their knowledge. From novice to experts, you will find a friendly environment for discussing about High End Audio, Stereo System, Home Theater System, Home Stereo System, Home Theater Installation, Amplifiers, Speakers, Subwoofers, Integrated System, Acoustic treatments & Digital Room Corrections and many more.

At AudioShark, we also have incorporated an exciting Marketplace where members can peruse terrific buys on used gear, as well as meet dealers and discuss the purchase of new gear.

We are as crazy about this hobby as you are! So come on in and join us! Audioshark.org the Friendliest Audio Forum!

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Audioshark is a community of like minded individuals. Audioshark welcomes participation from all manufacturers and owners of all brands and products. It is our belief that online forums provide a community of like minded audiophiles and music lovers to encourage the growth of this wonderful hobby.

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The Audioshark.org Team

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