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    Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    Currently I have neither Tidal, Qubos not Spotify. But thinking about getting either Tidal or Qobus.

    Is there any real difference between Qobus or Tidal? Personally I was thinking about Qobus Hifi. The sublime + seems a bit expensive.

    Any tips.

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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    I have both Qobuz and Tidal at the moment (through my Aurender N10 which has the MQA update, I don't have a MQA DAC).
    The High-res files in Qobuz are not better or worse then the Tidal MQA files. (maybe a full MQA DAC might change that)

    Overall I don't have a real preference, both are reliable, Qobuz has some more classical music content.

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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    If and when Qoboz gets integrated into Roon then and only then will I consider it as a viable option.
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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    If and when Qoboz gets integrated into Roon then and only then will I consider it as a viable option.
    I have zero interest in Roon. IMHO it just adds a useless layer to music playback.
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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordante View Post
    I have zero interest in Roon. IMHO it just adds a useless layer to music playback.
    Those of us who have removed what we feel is a "useless" piece of gear, that being a CD transport, require software to organize and select our music.
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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    Quote Originally Posted by CommandPerformanceAV View Post

    For Classical music in particular, if you type say "Scarlatti" - all there Scarlatti album will pop up. For some reason this doesn't work on Tidal. On the other hand Tidal has a lot more genre classifications and The "curated content" / playlists seemed a bit better on Tidal vs Qobuz ...But we'll have to see how things shake out when the actual US launch happens.
    Searching classical music in Tidal is certainly demanding. Often I have to do separate searches of performer, conductor, album and/or composer names to dig out what I’m looking for. Just searching, for example, “Vasks” won’t give me everything by the Latvian composer. If Qobuz nails this then I may have to switch, though I’d lose the fun of the hunt.
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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    Quote Originally Posted by pdub View Post
    Searching classical music in Tidal is certainly demanding. Often I have to do separate searches of performer, conductor, album and/or composer names to dig out what I’m looking for. Just searching, for example, “Vasks” won’t give me everything by the Latvian composer. If Qobuz nails this then I may have to switch, though I’d lose the fun of the hunt.
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    Yes, Tidal makes you work for it. You never know what you’re going to find, when or where. And it seems to be a moving target. Something will show up one place one time and then appear somewhere else, the next.

    Looking forward to trying Qobuz with Roon.
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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    Those of us who have removed what we feel is a "useless" piece of gear, that being a CD transport, require software to organize and select our music.
    I ripped al my CDs to a NAS and whenever I buy a new CD I directly rip it to my NAS. I use my Auralic Aries LE as the streaming device with it Lightning software. I don't see the point of paying for Roon when all streamers come with their own software.
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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    Quote Originally Posted by CommandPerformanceAV View Post
    What I found is that Qobuz seems to have a much larger hi resolution catalog (like 2 million tracks) vs Tidal (last account I saw was 100K and growing). And they are standard PCM, not MQA. Based on listening to MQA tracks vs Qobuz hi-res, the latter sounded better to me (better clarity / soundstage / smoothness).

    For Classical music in particular, if you type say "Scarlatti" - all there Scarlatti album will pop up. For some reason this doesn't work on Tidal. On the other hand Tidal has a lot more genre classifications and The "curated content" / playlists seemed a bit better on Tidal vs Qobuz.

    Pricing should be same or lower vs Tidal for annual subscriptions. But Tidal has various discount subscription schemes (family / education / military) that brings the price way down. I can't imagine Qobuz won't respond when they launch in the US.

    The Qobuz hi-res service will be marginally more vs Tidal Hi-Fi level if bought on an annual subscription cost basis.

    So anyway : as of now I'd give the edge somewhat to Qobuz. But we'll have to see how things shake out when the actual US launch happens.
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    HiFi 19.99month 199.99 year
    Studio 24.99month 249.99year
    Sublime+ 299.99year
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    Re: Qobus or Tidal which do you recomend

    Yeah, you always have to drill down with Tidal. You just never know which bit to use. I don't know how many times I finally found an album on the search of a fourth or fifth piece of info, whereas if there was adequately thorough metadata any combo of two of those data points should have resulted in the title sought. So I guess I'm hoping Qobuz has more thorough metadata?

 

 
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