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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    Quote Originally Posted by cmalak View Post
    Nice Mike

    In Triode mode (80wpc?), do they lose a bit of bass authority and dynamics compared to Ultralinear?

    Iím assuming Triode mode works better with more intimate music where the focus is vocals, instrumental timbres and textures, and ultralinear is more appropriate for music requiring more bass depth and control, like orchestral or hard charging rock??
    I canít say yet. Too early. Triode mode is intoxicating. Iím in the store on a Sunday. Canít stop listening. Must go home!

    Itís great to have options. Ultralinear would be great for classical Iím sure.


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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    So Mike, how're you getting on with the 160M's—as they evolve are you still transfixed? Better than GS150? Better than REF250SE? Have you slept?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    So Mike, how're you getting on with the 160M'sóas they evolve are you still transfixed? Better than GS150? Better than REF250SE? Have you slept?
    Oh man, they are fabulous. Triode mode is soooooooooo delicious. Way better than GS150, REF250SE. They have this sweet sound with amazing definition and layering of sound. Iím at 90 hours I think.


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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Oh man, they are fabulous. Triode mode is soooooooooo delicious. Way better than GS150, REF250SE. They have this sweet sound with amazing definition and layering of sound. I’m at 90 hours I think.


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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    Hi Mike,

    Can you describe the differences between the 160M's and the 250SE's please. thank you

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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    Quote Originally Posted by gasherbaum View Post
    Hi Mike,

    Can you describe the differences between the 160M's and the 250SE's please. thank you
    The 160Mís in Triode mode have an intoxicating, 300b SET like sweetness. In Ultralinear mode, they sound like the 250SEís.


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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    Mike, are the 160’s on the usual 600hr break-in schedule? Further thoughts & impressions?
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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Mike, are the 160ís on the usual 600hr break-in schedule? Further thoughts & impressions?
    Yes. They are breaking in beautifully. I cannot believe how advanced these are sonically over my GS150. The linearity, clarity, microdetail retrieval and sweetness is intoxicating. The soundstage is expanding as they break in.


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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Mike, are the 160’s on the usual 600hr break-in schedule? Further thoughts & impressions?
    When I talked to Dave Gordon from ARC at RMAF a few years ago, I told him the Ref 6 and Ref 75 didn't need 600 hours of break in time to sound great. Dave agreed and said ARC was going to change the 600 hour reminder they place in the box of their gear. Apparently they haven't done that yet. People see this piece of paper and assume its gospel it will take 600 hours of break in time before their new ARC gear sounds its best. Many people literally can't enjoy their new gear until they know they have put 600 hours on it.
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    Re: Audio Research 160M

    I’ve owned quite a few ARC components. Always enjoyed the break in journey and never worried too much about the 600 hrs. Also, to me the journey meant that, with time, the quality if the music reproduction would continue to improve.

    To me, the magic number has been around 300 hrs. Not that before 300 hrs the system sounded bad, it’s just that it got better!

    Anyway, it’s all about music.
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