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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    I use tubes and the greatest thing about the LS17 is that I don'thave to think or worry about it. Like Mikado463 said, the amp has more to dowith the sound you want AND your speakers. Come over to the tube side... you won't be disappointed.

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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    ARC is a solid brand so congrats on the new ARC LS17! If you're open to both Tube or SS, I'd say solid-state are, watt for watt, cooler running, more reliable and cheaper than tubes. That being said, Tubes are still around for a reason... because they offer such a unique sound. Personally, I like both for different reasons. Tubes can be a bit finicky with certain speakers and SS amps tend to be more forgiving in their speaker pairings. Since your open to both, you might want to look into Pass Labs Alephs amps or a used Luxman Tube Amps.

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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    have a look here re amps for harbs . personally i would use a nice powerfull ss amp with your arc

    http://www.audioshark.org/harbeth-lo...kers-8288.html

    like a modwright or a belles
    i used arc ref 5 and 5se into belles monoblocks
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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    I am changing directions on the amp(s) that I am using with my ARC LS-17 SE. I am going to try a T+A amp. From all I have read and hear they are supposed to be the type of amplifiers that should fit the bill for me. Knowing how much I love my T+A DAC I know the quality, build and design will be satisfying. The sound performance should be right up my alley, so to speak!
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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    Suncoast mentioned on another thread he took in an ARC 75se, may be out of the budget, you'd have to check, I'd think ARC would work well with ARC and be a nice match with the Harbeth.
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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    It really depends on your use as well. I have had amplifiers with way too much power (PS Audio, Son of Ampzilla, etc.) but I seem to prefer the amps with lower power. Maybe because I do not listen very loud and I love open amps with great sound stage and instrument definition.

    I really enjoyed the First Watt and the Goldmund Job amps, but felt neither would be my long term solution. I also really loved the sound of the Quicksilver tube amps I owned, but they were way to finicky and seemed to change with the weather (very weird indeed), and the classic ARC tube amp I had. loved the build but felt it was a bit too old to depend on it completely moving forward.

    The T+A gives me everything that I loved with the FW (accurate, open, smooth) and the speed of the Goldmund.... warmth of the QS, plenty of power for my use.... the only issue that I see is believing that so much can come from such a small package.
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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    i paired my ls17se with an arc d120 (recapped in 2008) and an odyssey kismet (every single possible upgrade without going monoblocks). i also had it function as the pre for an ayon spirit 3. they ran great on a pair of raidho c1.1 and dyn contour 1.4le but i sold the ls17se for a soulution 721 so did not have a chance to test on my magicos

    the ls17se was a great preamp but after some time i noticed that the soundstage depth was lacking and that the overall tone was whitish. i haven't had the pleasure of hearing some of arc's higher end pres.

    if i may make a suggestion: i've found that preamps are the 2nd most important part of the chain (speakers being first) in terms of setting system tonality. one test that helped me come to this conclusion was the ls17se+ayon pairing...without it the ayon tonality was there in the system, with it - the sound was remarkably close to the arc stack i was running prior. the raidhos preferred the solid state amp so i noticed the sound stage was a it smaller and bass didn't go as deep. but it was pleasant and i ran that set up for a few months

    i threw more money at a pre and will upgrade amps in the future. if you snag a screaming deal on an amp you might get some real value out of applying the saved funds towards an even higher pre in the arc line. if not, then rest assured that the ls17se is a fantastic choice. i don't want to turn this into an unsolicited ad, but if you're interested in the d120 feel free to pm me. it is sitting unused and is a great piece of gear

    sorry for the scattered thoughts - writing this at work between meetings!

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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    Everyone responds to this type of thread by recommending what they own, so one more wont heart, right?

    Odyssey makes solid state Kismet monoblocks housed in their Khartago boxes to keep the price lower. These can be found used between $1k and $2k. Besides being comfortable with about any load, you mentioned wanting warm/bright sound. Those terms donít normally go hand in hand, but the cool thing about these Odyssey amps is that they can be biased to produce warmer or more detailed (brighter) sound. Dial them in for the best synergy with your system, room and ears.

    Odyssey will bias them for you, but it would be best guess based on a conversation. Also, Odyssey is very backlogged right now so it would take a while. Call them for instructions and do it yourself!

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    yeah my process with klaus @ odyssey was extremely seamless and the bias to the voltage in your socket is super helpful. in nyc, my 110v socket was actually putting out 124v on average (and on median). so having it biased for my weirdly high voltage helps everything

    the only negative is the back log. i ended up having to wait 6 months for my amp and at many times through the process i would see attractive pieces on agon and consider cancelling my order. one time, i called klaus and asked him if i should cancel to pick up another amp i was eyeing. he, very simply, walked me through why he though the kismet would be better and where the competitor amp might outshine - it is hard to express just how un-salesy and not-pushy he was in that convo (as well as all my convos with him)

    i am super glad i waited because the product i got blows my mind. it's just as comfortable with magicos and a soulution pre as it was with some raidhos and a caravan of pre's (none touching the refinement or price! of the soulution). i genuinely feel its a world class amp and will be the last piece i upgrade and would only really be replacing it with a 710/711 or equivalent constellation/boulder gear i.e. mega-amps when thats a fiscally responsible decision.

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    Re: Audio Research LS17 SE... amp parining?

    p.s. for any sharks in the nyc area that would like to hear the amp - shoot me a pm and i'm happy to have you over for a demo

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