Cable Fraud, Is it Real?

[UltraFast69]

You read the warnings about fraud when it comes to cables from manufacturers web-sites, is it too much to ask a cable manufacturer to validate serial numbers?

Still wonder who really is making cables in a fraudulent way, and how many of these do they really sell to such a small community or is it a game of fear to always feed the machine?

Thoughts?

[TommyC]

It's real, especially in the Chinese market. They look identical. Even dealers have hard time telling the fake ones apart.

For high dollar used cables, it's not a bad move to validate the cables.

[Devg]

Lots of Siltech and PS Audio cables are counterfeit. It goes so far that even PSA dealers has sold fake ones unknowingly to its customers Some of the other brands cable are stolen from the manufacturing factory in China on a regular basis - so these are real and sold at cheaper price on the 2nd hand market. I think just putting a serial no might not help - there has to be a way of identifying a real vs counterfeit one easily.

[hifinutt]

yes kimber recently advised of fraud cables , you have to be on your guard

[asiufy]

Nordost and Transparent are also well known to be victims of cable fraud.

[octadyndude]

Audioquest is another one. If you wanted to validate them I've read Audioquest would want you to send them the cables. Bad news if they are fakes you wouldn't get them back.

[CGabriel]

Unfortunately, it is a real problem. They just emulate the outer appearance of a cable. The innards are absolute crap. In some cases, they don’t try all that hard to do a good job on the outside. This is one of the reasons we no longer use printed heatshrink for labeling. it is far to easy to duplicate. There is actually a high-end speaker in China “designed by Caelin Gabriel”. For the record, I have never designed a speaker.

Of more concern to me are the people ripping off technology and applying to their own product lines. These people we prosecute. We have even received Chinese patents so the we can prosecute Chinese manufacturers.

We receive many requests to validate authenticity of our products weekly, We are very happy to provide this information. Usually all it takes is a closeup photo or the serial number.
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[Mike]

Hence the reason to always buy from an AUTHORIZED dealer.

[CGabriel]

If the price is TOO good to be true - buyer beware. Check it out.

[Mikado463]

If the price is TOO good to be true - buyer beware. Check it out.

akin to buying a Rolex ...............

[ack]

Manufacturers can simply provide serial numbers that are hard to predict, using simple computer software - non-sequential, rather random, using alpha-numeric characters, etc. One can simply encode a date + product id + other things, into a hex code and then re-encode that using a private passphrase; it's extremely easy and effective, and reversible but only if you know the passphrase

[Phishphan]

akin to buying a Rolex ...............

So you’re saying the Rolex I bought from that nice gentleman on the street isn’t real? He had so many in his trench coat, i assumed he was a authorized dealer.



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[UltraFast69]

So you’re saying the Rolex I bought from that nice gentleman on the street isn’t real? He had so many in his trench coat, i assumed he was a authorized dealer.



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Does anybody really know what time it is



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[CPP]

If there is a way to make a fast buck, there are people out there that are going to try it. After all, counterfeiting has been going on for a long long time. Thus the Secret Service was founded in 1865 to combat counterfeiting