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January 18, 2018, 10:32 PM #1
MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
http://www.msbtechnology.com/dacs/
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January 18, 2018, 11:12 PM #2
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Re: MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
Mike,
Very interesting -- would love to see how it compares to the outgoing MSB Dac V as well as Berkeley Reference, Chord DAVE & Emm labs.
Hopefully it can deliver a fair dose of the magic of the Select DAC at an approachable price.
Anshul
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January 18, 2018, 11:28 PM #3
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I wonder if those prices include the choice of two inputs? So, if I was looking at the entry level discrete DAC plus I wanted an MQA USB and the Roon ethernet card. The pricing probably goes up. Can one defeat the internal volume control and you use your own pre amp ?
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January 19, 2018, 01:04 AM #4
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Sweet- figuring out my next upgrade
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January 19, 2018, 01:30 AM #5
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MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
Interesting news. The Discrete appears to be the Analog replacement and, with the included Discrete Power Supply, at $9,950 is very competitively priced.
Looks like the Premier could be sweet spot - the TOTR model with the new Prime DAC modules. The price for their modular inputs is not inexpensive though ...
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January 19, 2018, 01:15 PM #6
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Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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January 23, 2018, 02:47 PM #7
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Just like the outgoing Analog DAC, it looks like MSB is not publishing the base clock specification(s) of both the Discrete and Premier DACs. However, they do mention that the Premier can be upgraded to the "all new Femto 93". I'm curious just how much extra $ this upgrade will add to the MSRP.
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January 23, 2018, 03:12 PM #8
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The base clock has been the Femto 140, MSRP $5,000.
The Femto 77 MSRP is $10,000.
Let’s say the new Femto 93 MSRP is $7,500.
That would project to a MSRP upgrade cost of approximately $2,500.
Just a guess on my part. Premier DAC pricing could be scaled down commensurately.
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January 24, 2018, 04:18 PM #9
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Some more info and pictures of the Premier DAC:
http://www.monoandstereo.com/2018/01...blic.html#moreBuddy
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January 24, 2018, 10:51 PM #10
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Probably too early for this question. But, does MSB plan on producing companion transports for these DACS? At a more accessible price points than the recently announced ones.
If they made a Discrete transport with HDMI video (since I believe these new ones are based on the Oppo 203) I could remove the Oppo 205 from system and go to a full MSB stack DAC+Transport with HDMI ( I run it to a front projector)
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January 25, 2018, 12:49 AM #11
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First they will come out with the Reference Transport and then the Select Transport. After that, I would expect them to come out with a less expensive transport for the Premier and Discrete DACs. Based on how great the inexpensive UMT Transport sounded (now discontinued), all the new transports should sound outstanding.
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
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January 25, 2018, 02:24 AM #12
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Re: MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
Ken - are you ordering an MSB?
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January 25, 2018, 02:47 AM #13
Re: MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
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January 25, 2018, 12:58 PM #14
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Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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March 8, 2018, 11:33 AM #15
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Does anyone know a more precise release date? I for one cannot wait to home audition the pimped up Reference DAC and compare to my Lumin T1. I am super happy with my sound at the moment so I am fascinated to see what the Reference will add. Will also try to audition the Brinkmann Nyquist. Game on.
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March 8, 2018, 11:42 AM #16
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March 8, 2018, 04:57 PM #17
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I have had the good fortune to listen to the MSB Reference DAC a few days ago, as part of my quest to select the front end for a new system.
It was fed by a proprietary music player hosted on a NUC, and played on YG Sonja loudspeakers through a solid state pre and a stereo power amp, pre-production pieces from a new manufacturer.
I listened to a variety of music I know well of various resolution, at quite a low volume setting.
I have been blown away. It has been a long time since I felt so moved by reproduced music.
The sense of cohesion, transparency, resolution, depth and spaciousness of the soundstage has been unparalleled. I am comfortable to attribute most of it to the Reference, as there has been clear differentiation between different tracks.
The thing is, plain redbook recordings sounded like I have never heard them before, and high resolution well recorded tracks were unbelievable and as I have never heard them.
I am deeply impressed by MSB technology and what they have produced.
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March 9, 2018, 06:40 PM #18
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Glad to hear another positive Ref dac story - it is a friggin' awesome machine. I know everybody talks about the Select, but the Ref is right up there with it - and it *still* smokes the rest i've heard and has that eery its analog but digital feel.
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March 12, 2018, 04:49 PM #20
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Re: MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
Public debut of the Premier DAC:
http://www.monoandstereo.com/2018/01...st-public.html
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March 12, 2018, 05:34 PM #21
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Drool! I was listening to Elton John’s Captain Fantastic in MQA on the MSB today and it was just so unreal sounding. Can’t believe it’s digital. Sounds more like the best of tape and vinyl put together.
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March 13, 2018, 02:20 PM #22
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Have decided not to go anywhere near the Reference. Out of my league. Will wait for the Premiere and test that (fully upgraded) against my Lumin (not a fair comparison on price, but I love my Lumin) and decide based on my perceived price to value. Will also try to find a dealer who does Brinkmann Nyquist (thanks Kuoppis) and also dCS (thanks Jack). Those are the 3 that excit me the most. Or an Esoteric N-01?
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March 31, 2018, 01:09 PM #23
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After some tought, I have ordered the MSB Premier DAC. It is expected to come sometime in June according to MSB. If I waited for the High end in Munich there was a risk of being August before the next delivery date.
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April 1, 2018, 12:34 AM #24
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Congrats Jabba! Hope the wait isn’t too agonising. Did you go for any of the upgrades (clock, power supply)?
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
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April 1, 2018, 02:11 PM #25
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Thanks AJR! The wait wil probably be fine. Some minor upgrades are already on its way. In between we have Munich.
My dealer says that the next step is two discrete psu and then reference psu. He wil let me test both dual discrete psu and femto 93 clock. So with that in mind, I chose to buy it with rendering module as the only ekstra.
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April 1, 2018, 02:42 PM #26
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my msb dealer just delivered my tannoy speakers after a 7 hour drive !! i think he will be exhibiting msb gear at munich this year and probably these new dacs
1]bel canto EIX/ F5 monoblocks . BC cd2, tannoy eaton legacy 2]bel canto pre 5 ,arcam a85 , black ice modded dac
modded dac , marantz sa8005, Verity audio Rienzi
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April 2, 2018, 12:44 AM #27
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Amplification: Dan D’Agostino Momentum HD and M400’s | Boulder 508
Speakers: Wilson Alexias
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April 2, 2018, 03:22 AM #28
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Good choice for an extra the renderer. If you are going to start playing with the MSB and aren't quite sure, switching back to what you already thought was good is a very "appropriate" approaching moment to raising the bar on your expectations. Be warned about playing in the MSB upgrades, they work!
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April 25, 2018, 06:30 AM #29
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I see the MSB website has added on a picture and brief blurb re “The Premiere Power Base”... Jabba - do you know the price for this upgrade?
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
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April 25, 2018, 12:28 PM #30
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May 3, 2018, 08:04 AM #32
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That’s how I ordered mine too. I also am getting the stock power supply so people can compare.
My hunch is that this is going to be an amazing product. I can’t wait to get mine.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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May 3, 2018, 12:20 PM #33
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Does anyone know the cost of the Femto 93 upgrade?
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
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May 10, 2018, 08:04 PM #34
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Any news out of Munich?
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May 11, 2018, 12:09 AM #35
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The reference stack on display, including two mono powerbases for the DAC, and the transport with its own power supply.
Renderer Mk2 software updated twice in the last several weeks, on the fly.
Impressive display.
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I asked if I got a lift on the Premier DAC and it was heavy. Made of a piece of aluminium it is ultrasolid. As a buyer it was soothing to see and touch it. I was talking to both Jonathan and Daniel and they were so nice and down to earth.
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May 13, 2018, 11:03 AM #37
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MSB showed the Reference DAC with Roon playback via the Renderer module and full MQA capability.
The renderer is doing MQA unfolding and decoding and will then pass on the signal to the DAC.
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May 14, 2018, 04:21 AM #39
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I think Keith is right:
- Base price: $19,500
- Power base upgrade: $7,500 (as per Jabba)
- Roon ready renderer: $1,995 (I am guessing)
Then an additional say $2,500 (as per Ken’s guesstimate) for the Femto 93.
I notice on the website that there is no optional upgraded pre amp module (as per the Reference). Wonder if with the base output module it can be used as a decent pre amp, and how much one would need to spend to buy a separate pre amp to better it. Hopefully we will find out when Mike gets one in store!Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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May 14, 2018, 10:57 PM #40
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Source Analog: Kuzma Stabi R w/4point 11 arm | Kuzma 50 Cartridge
Source Digital: Aurender N10 | Brinkmann Nyquist MK II
Amplification: Dan D’Agostino Momentum HD and M400’s | Boulder 508
Speakers: Wilson Alexias
Cabling: Nordost Leif, Norse, V2 and Odin
Power and Isolation: Audio-Ultra Home & Room Power Foundation Performance Package with StromTank S1000 | HRS
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May 15, 2018, 08:36 AM #41
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Surprised that we haven’t seen any comments or videos of the Premier from the launch event in Munich.
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May 15, 2018, 11:16 AM #42
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These pictures are from My-Hiend.com
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May 16, 2018, 01:09 PM #45
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Thanks for the pics. That is the Reference, right?
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
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May 16, 2018, 01:47 PM #46
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That’s right. Picture number two and tree shows the Reference DAC and the Reference transport.
Picture number 4 and 5 shows the front and back of the Premier DAC.
The modul who is partial dragged out is the internal femto clock. They could chose this soulotion as the clock is still close to the DAC modules.
On the larger models, this did not go as the distance was to big. According to MSB, to much noise would be applied by using a cable between clock and DAC module.
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May 23, 2018, 07:08 AM #47
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MSB’s website now has the full pricing for the Discrete and Premiere. For the Premiere it is as per an earlier post except that the the upgrade to the Femto 93 is US$4,950, not US$2,500.
So a fully pimped Premiere will cost:
- $19,500 (base model)
- $7,500 (Premiere power base upgrade)
- $4,950 (Femto 93 upgrade)
- $1,995 (Renderer input model)
So that is US$33,945 (plus the cost of an additional digital input if that is needed).
Am looking forward to learning about the quality of the pre-amp function. Also wonder how much better the Premiere power base upgrade will be compared to upgrading to the 2nd Discrete power supply (upgrade cost is $1,450).
Lots of options!Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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May 23, 2018, 07:36 AM #48
Re: MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
Fully loaded, the Premiere is within $6K of the Reference (base configuration). 🤔
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Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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May 23, 2018, 07:40 AM #49
Re: MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
A lot of my customers are starting with the base Premier and a Roon Renderer and will over time, add the clock and power supply.
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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May 23, 2018, 07:41 AM #50
Re: MSB Launches Two New DAC’s
Good spot!
We will all know the answers to these questions a while after Mike takes delivery of his Premiere...Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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