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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    Thank you (if you are welcoming me)! I joined long time ago, almost never participated (never?). Maybe I should introduce myself if there’s a forum/thread for that (sorry for the bad manners).

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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    Quote Originally Posted by mocenigo View Post
    Have you tried also the 1200AS2? It is the first of a new generation of Icepower amplifier modules based on a new chipset. I would not be surprised if it sounded radically different from, say, the 700AS2.
    Yes and no "radical" difference whatsoever.
    Please note the 1200AS2 sits below top in the Nord hierarchy as well.
    I'd say about even. Then again I'm not quite as prone to audiophilia hallucinatory hyperbole of the latest greatest thing since sliced bread. YMMV.

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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    To everyone who thinks the 'icepower' sounds great, who have also heard the Nord amp aswell.
    Is there really that big a difference between them?
    AJ doesn't think there is.
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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    Is there really that big a difference between them?
    AJ doesn't think there is.
    If I wasn't clear, I should add the caveats - That is my comparison with carefully matched gain structure so the voltage outputs across the speaker terminals are matched and then instantaneous rapid switching between the 2 amps. That is not how they are typically compared. Plus I'm not reading all the Mivera stuff that might make PT Barnum blush, so again YMMV.
    I am certainly not saying that there can't possibly be any differences, with super low efficiency speakers (<82db) and pathelogical system architecture, etc, etc.
    I just don't test under such conditions. Others might.

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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    I'm trying to understand what you're saying ..... under your "comparing setup",

    -> you didn't hear any different with your spk (which I suppose is > 82dB sensitivity). But you do suspect that if a spk with < 82dB will has some different.

    Do I understand you correctly ?
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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    Quote Originally Posted by tane0019 View Post
    I'm trying to understand what you're saying ..... under your "comparing setup"
    I didn't hear any difference under those conditions. If you don't match gain/voltage across terminals and instant switch, then you are not comparing how I did...and your results might vary.
    If you have 78sb sensitivity passive network speakers with high phase angles and 0.5ohm impedance at 20k, then you are not comparing the non-pathelogical way I did...and your results might vary.
    If one is highly susceptible to PT Barnum sales pitches, then your results might vary. Etc, etc.
    So what I'm saying is, my results, of my comparisons, are for my specific purposes (research into amplification of active speakers, not purely subjective, anecdotal, enjoyment "listening"). It doesn't mean one can't have different results using different methods. YMMV.

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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    To everyone who thinks the 'icepower' sounds great, who have also heard the Nord amp aswell.
    Is there really that big a difference between them?
    AJ doesn't think there is.
    Does anyone have any comments on this?
    What is the difference between the Nord (which I have) and Icepower?
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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    This is a fascinating thread and I wanted to say I am very much looking forward to the updates. I have been on the fence for around a year with the nCore based technology after hearing Bruno's Mola Mola's, reading lots of positive reviews of Bruno's technology. I guess the million dollar question that we are all interested in is whether the new ice power module (without buffer flexibility) is as good as we need/possible. Bruno's philosophy as stated was to create an amplifier without any sonic signature. Perhaps utter neutrality becomes a zero differentiator and we focus on other components for personal emphasis of sound..?

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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    Welcome to the forum, thank you so much for joining.
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    Re: New B&O ICE Power 1200AS2 Module @ Nord: 600W into 8Ohms 1200W into 4Ohms

    Am I the only one checking this thread and hoping for more thoughts, feedback and insights into the 1200AS2 vs NC500 based amplification? :-)
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