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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Agree. Am not questioning that. Just wondering about where on the diminishing returns curve the Vodka and Diamond are...
    I hate to say it, but Diamond is the biggest difference (for me anyway) between Stock Cat6 and a after market cable. I really think it’s the silver and DBS that makes it noticeable over Vodka and Stock.


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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

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    So Diamond from wall to router to NAS to DAC (ie 3 of them)?
    DAC or music server must have Diamond. The others you can live with Vodka.

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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

    All of you who has the AQ and thinks it makes a considerable difference, you should try the Sotm iso-cat6 special edition. My friends was using AQ diamond, until he switched to Sotm and never looked back.

    Here is a great comparison:
    https://audiobacon.net/2017/07/09/so...hile-ethernet/

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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

    It makes a big enough difference that none of you will take $5000. Got it.

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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

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    It makes a big enough difference that none of you will take $5000. Got it.
    We don’t bet. Do you have a problem? You won’t list your system. Those of us with resolving systems have stated we do hear a difference. Stop trolling. You can leave.


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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    So Diamond from wall to router to NAS to DAC (ie 3 of them)?
    In my case I'm going from Router to Switch with AQ Cinnamon, from Switch to Melco with AQ Diamond and from Melco to Lumin with AQ Diamond
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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

    Not to dredge anything up, but I'm curious why no one has addressed what appears to Jinjuku's main point?

    If I understand correctly, he's saying that when comparing ethernet cables you're not really comparing cables because the
    track is already in the buffer. That is , when you change cables, you're still hearing the same signal as you were before the
    cable was switched. Do I have this right?

    "Tidal can load an entire track into their buffer in 6-7 seconds on my 100Mbps Internet connection.
    In both instances I can pull the cable and the entire track plays. Did my sound get worse, get better, stay the same when the cable was pulled?"

    This actually doesn't meet my experience, as when I pull the cable, the track will only play for a 4 seconds... Am I misunderstanding something?

    Can you explain this, Jinjuko?

    And finally, I listened carefully, for days, comparing the AQ Diamond, the Sotm with filter, and Supra cat 8. They each have their own sound. The AQ is very resolved, refined, delicate-- almost restrained in a good way. The Sotm is a little more dramatic in the bass and less resolved. The Supra is warm, smooth and another several degrees less resolved.

    I have no doubt I could pick the Supra vs the AQ, blind, on my system and on music familiar to me.
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    Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

    I think you just answered your own question. Why? There’s a number of reasons: different cable material (silver in Diamond I believe), you have the DBS working its magic, different design philosophies with respect to insulation.

    As my friend says: “it all matters”.

    We can’t just dismiss something as being identical since they’re sending packets of data.

    It reminds me of the power cable debate. It’s just electricity! The transformers don’t care what cable is delivering the power!

    Does anyone serious about hi-end audio today still believe power cables don’t make a difference?


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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

    I already know from personal listening that cables have different effects on sound.

    I wasinquiring as to what seems to be Jinjuko's apparent point that an entire track will
    already be buffered so you when you switch cables you're hearing the same signal already
    buffered in the dac. Is that the point he's making?

    That's not my experience as when I pull the cable, the music plays for just a few seconds.

    I'm just trying to understand the basis for his argument...
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    Re: Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

    A few days ago, the importer of Goebel, brought me an Ethernet cable to my house, to test it between my Melco and my Lumin, comparing it with my AQ Diamond. I was really happy with my AQ, but the Goebel is very superior (also in price).
    Decreases the digital brightness that you can have in the system very noticeably.
    The body of the music is fantastic and with respect to the bass, it seems that I have added another woffer of 9 ".
    When he had already decided that he was buying the cable, he took it out of a bag that came with the box of a Goebel XLR and placed it between Lumin and AR Ref 5SE. Wow! Awesome. I know I will buy it, now I can not but soon .........
    Really the Goebel cables are something very special and make me understand that I still have a lot of improvement without changing "bigger pieces" like amplifier, speakers .... ...

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