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    SACD Player recommendations ......

    Thoughts on 'all in one' SACD players, 5k or less ?

    Can anything beat the Oppo 205 in that category ?
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    A used Cary 306 SACD Pro is exactly what you described.
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    See if you can audition a psaudio direct stream. I think they’re just a tad more than $5k. Mine blows my socks off routinely.


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    A used Esoteric K-03 or K-03x. If you ever want to upgrade the DAC you will always have a great transport.
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    I preferred the Marantz SA-14s1 over the Cary player. Could have been system synergy, but I wasn't the only one who shared that opinion.

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    Marantz sa8500 , I know it is below the sa-14s1 but its still very good . I am listening now to one . very reliable and sounds great
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Thoughts on 'all in one' SACD players, 5k or less ?

    Can anything beat the Oppo 205 in that category ?
    As a universal player, I just don't think so. the Analog second is pretty nice as compared to the 105, really works nice in the video area. Tidal works and the latest beta upgrade is adding MQA. Roon was added in the Sept 13th upgrade.
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    If you want to spend a bit more, check out the new Ayon CD-35 HF, SACD/CD Limited edition,...a friend has one and it sounds great!
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    If you want to spend a bit more, check out the new Ayon CD-35 HF, SACD/CD Limited edition,...a friend has one and it sounds great!
    $24,000 holy smokes
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    New Pioneer has sacd capability, in Poland around 3 k usd, 23 % VAT included.

    http://www.hifi-journal.de/news/44-c...ae-sacd-player
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    $24,000 holy smokes
    Sorry,...put the HF in there by accident which is advertised now for $22K; the player my friend has is the stock CD-35 and it's amazing, can be had for about $8K new.
    Given its performance I cannot imagine what the HF sounds like should price and performance uplifts be related...
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Sorry,...put the HF in there by accident which is advertised now for $22K; the player my friend has is the stock CD-35 and it's amazing, can be had for about $8K new.
    Given its performance I cannot imagine what the HF sounds like should price and performance uplifts be related...
    I was like wow when I saw the HF pricing.

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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Marslo.......That flagship Pioneer PD-70AE looks superbly built.






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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Indeed Dan, reminds me of my former sacd player , Esoteric X-05.
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Marslo.......That flagship Pioneer PD-70AE looks superbly built.






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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Thank you gents for the suggestions, I've got to give the Marantz spinners a closer look. Is that Pioneer unit available here in the US ? I had a Pioneer Elite unit about ten years ago, total POS !
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    I think an Esoteric K-07X would meet your criteria and would definitely be an improvement over the Oppo.

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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    I was like wow when I saw the HF pricing.

    PS: old South Carolina person myself. ( Lexington, wife and I both born in SC)
    Very cool....ever think about getting back or does the Sunshine state have you locked in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Very cool....ever think about getting back or does the Sunshine state have you locked in?
    After evacuating for hurricanes two years in a row the wife made a trip to Lake Murray where we used to live and started comparing the market just in case we move back.
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by asindc View Post
    A used Cary 306 SACD Pro is exactly what you described.
    Anthony, I had a Cary 303/300 and while I liked it a lot it proved to be unreliable. I assume your 306 pro has been fine ? I know a couple of other folks that have reliability issues with their 306's.

    If I was interested in re-arranging my shelving unit (I'm not)I really think for the $$ the PS Audio 'duo' is the way to go, second fiddle right now is the Marantz SA-10.
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Anthony, I had a Cary 303/300 and while I liked it a lot it proved to be unreliable. I assume your 306 pro has been fine ? I know a couple of other folks that have reliability issues with their 306's.

    If I was interested in re-arranging my shelving unit (I'm not)I really think for the $$ the PS Audio 'duo' is the way to go, second fiddle right now is the Marantz SA-10.
    Dave, I had the 306/200 with no reliability issues, then went to the 306 SACD (non-Pro) that had overheating and disc reading issues, and now have the 306 SACD Pro with no issues.

    I have compared my SACD Pro to the McIntosh MCD500 and the Marantz 14S1 and preferred the Cary. The McIntosh was great and only slightly less robust than the Cary, while I found the Marantz too warm for my tastes. The McIntosh and Marantz are also more limited in terms of digital inputs than the Cary.
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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by asindc View Post
    Dave, I had the 306/200 with no reliability issues, then went to the 306 SACD (non-Pro) that had overheating and disc reading issues, and now have the 306 SACD Pro with no issues.

    I have compared my SACD Pro to the McIntosh MCD500 and the Marantz 14S1 and preferred the Cary. The McIntosh was great and only slightly less robust than the Cary, while I found the Marantz too warm for my tastes. The McIntosh and Marantz are also more limited in terms of digital inputs than the Cary.
    And at Cary is a pre-owned https://carydirect.com/cd-306-sacd-pro.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    That’s a good price, especially coming from the manufacturer.
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    ...........Cary 306 SACD Professional Disc Player---->

    ===> Cary SLP-05 (Ultimate Upgrade edition)----> Clayton M-300----> MARTIN LOGAN SPIRES/REL 212SX x2

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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    That’s a good price, especially coming from the manufacturer.
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    ...........Cary 306 SACD Professional Disc Player---->

    ===> Cary SLP-05 (Ultimate Upgrade edition)----> Clayton M-300----> MARTIN LOGAN SPIRES/REL 212SX x2

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    Re: SACD Player recommendations ......

    Quote Originally Posted by asindc View Post
    That’s a good price, especially coming from the manufacturer.
    Agreed Anthony, thanks for the link Chris ......... you got me thinking now !!
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    well..........I'm done thinking about it, after a nice chat with Daryl I made the purchase. Hopefully Anthony I'll be as happy with it as you are with yours !
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    well..........I'm done thinking about it, after a nice chat with Daryl I made the purchase. Hopefully Anthony I'll be as happy with it as you are with yours !
    If you were happy with the sound of the 303, then I think you'll be more pleased with the 306 SACD Pro. Plus you have at least a limited warranty on it if I assume correctly. As I'm sure you are aware, Cary traditionally has exceptional customer service. I've only used CS under the new ownership once, but it was consistent with my past experience.
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    ...........Cary 306 SACD Professional Disc Player---->

    ===> Cary SLP-05 (Ultimate Upgrade edition)----> Clayton M-300----> MARTIN LOGAN SPIRES/REL 212SX x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hounddog View Post
    See if you can audition a psaudio direct stream. I think they’re just a tad more than $5k. Mine blows my socks off routinely.


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    A stock 205 is impressive for the price but, the Modwright upgrade takes it to another level. IMHO

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    the love affair continues with my Cary 306 Pro ..........
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