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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    LOL. When I had my source and amps plugged into the Triton power conditioner on a single 20 amp line, the circuit breaker would trip when I played the music LOUD. I added a second 20 amp AC line, along with a Shunyata Cyclop power conditioner, for both amps, and the circuit breaker on the second 20 amp line would trip when I played the music LOUD. I added a third 20 amp line, along with another Cyclop power conditioner, so that each amp had its own 20 amp circuit. Then when I played the music LOUD the circuit breakers do not trip. Rather the mid and tweeter in the speakers break.

    So, the amps do blow up speakers when on separate circuits.
    regardless Bud, you're making no sense if you think separate 20 amp circuits are at fault, keep drinking your 'kool aid' !

    besides, most of us do not plug source and amplification onto the same circuit........

    my apologies 'Old Bob' for getting your thread off track.
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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    BTW, in case you overlooked it, there is a dedicated Pass Lans forum here.
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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    regardless Bud, you're making no sense if you think separate 20 amp circuits are at fault, keep drinking your 'kool aid' !

    besides, most of us do not plug source and amplification onto the same circuit........

    my apologies 'Old Bob' for getting your thread off track.
    I think you missed his point, although as Joe points out having read Bud's old posts about his experiences at the time makes it clearer to some of us. But to put it simply, give a high power amp enough current and it can blow speaker elements. That's not bad, in Bud's opinion
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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    I don't think there was any Kool-Aid involved in any of those lessons of experience. Far from it.
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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    Kool-Aid and Vodka?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I don't think there was any Kool-Aid involved in any of those lessons of experience. Far from it.
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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    Bud is cool in my books. I don't think my ears would have survived that night he blew up the S5's, but it sure would have been something to remember.


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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    Wow, Bud, I thought I rocked.... those amps are monsters, I can't imagine the SPL. How large is your room?

    I have a dedicated 20 amp line for my amp, I had doubts an amp would draw that much. No more, thanks to Bud
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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    I own a First Watt F6 amplifier. It is the amp I use when I am not in the mood for tubes. Very sweet sounding amplifier. Power is a matter of need. You have a small room and if you are not looking to knock the walls down it will get plenty loud enough. My KEF are anything but efficient speakers and it produces enough power for me.

    I will probably be moving the ARC amp soon so the FW and Quicksilver will be my main stays.

    I am also considering moving the First Watt... EJ is coming out with a new revolutionary amplifier (maybe at RMAF)... a new technology that he has been perfecting for a very long time... I probably will have to have one.. so the FW will be the odd man out ...
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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    Randy

    Is the "new" amp a progression of the one he showed at CES last year that never appeared on the market?
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    Re: experience with Pass Labs amps?

    The speaker incident is covered in the Magico forum. Let's just say it was an expensive lesson. LOL.
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