Thread: Esoteric N-01
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June 11, 2018, 09:34 PM #151
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For the Spotify issue, try this: power down your N-01, iPad and all network switches and access points, and the whole network infrastructure. Power cycle the router. Wait for 5 minutes, then power up the network switches. Wait for 2 minutes, then power up the N-01 and iPad.
To play Tidal MQA you have to use the Esoteric Sound Stream app or Lumin app. The N-01 needs to be running the latest firmware - 10.1i for the network board and 1.02 for the system firmware. This way the N-01 network board directly streams from Tidal via the internet.
If you use AirPlay from iPad to play YouTube, the audio is sent from iPad (via WiFi) to N-01.
If you use AirPlay from MacBook Air to play anything, the audio is sent from MacBook Air to N-01. AirPlay is restricted to 16/44.1 so it is not ideal for MQA. This way the Tidal software on MacBook Air gets the music data from Tidal via internet, then formats it as AirPlay and delivers it to N-01.
Note that after testing AirPlay the Spotify app will use it to stream to N-01 instead of Spotify Connect. To recover from it, in Spotify app switch the device to iPad, then back to N-01.
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June 12, 2018, 01:29 AM #152
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Tidal MQA works fine, it sounds OK (on par with Spotify Premium), but the UI is clunky compared with Spotify.
Spotify Connect doesn't work at all, I suspect something got broken in a recent App update that stops it communicating with the SDK binary loaded in the N-01. Reset of my local infrastructure didn't restore normal operation.
SoundStream works fine, including Spotify Airplay. But as I've discovered, if you close the Airplay control device playback stops. Whereas for Spotify Connect it keeps playing if you close the control point (because N-01 is grabbing content directly from Spotify and not the control point).
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June 12, 2018, 03:26 AM #153
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June 13, 2018, 11:18 PM #155
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@brodricj if you have not done the above yet, upgrade the N-01 to firmware 10.3j using the Esoteric Sound Stream app. After the upgrade is completed, in app settings, turn off Spotify Connect then turn it back on again.
See if these two procedures solve your Spotify Connect issue.
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June 13, 2018, 11:37 PM #156
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Cool, that fixed it! Spotify Connect back up and running!
This must be a new firmware as I checked recently and I was up-to-date. Checked today and 10.3j was there. Installed it, and now normal operation has been restored.
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August 13, 2018, 11:22 AM #158
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August 13, 2018, 12:02 PM #159
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August 13, 2018, 12:43 PM #160
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August 13, 2018, 07:26 PM #161
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I did send @essrand a PM, I didn't get any system generated message that the PM didn't get through.
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August 14, 2018, 02:39 PM #162
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August 24, 2018, 11:31 PM #163
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I see there is a new NET firmware for N-01 10.3l. So what's new?
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August 30, 2018, 04:18 AM #164
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For N-01 Roon Ready.
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September 3, 2018, 04:39 AM #165
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https://www.stereophile.com/content/...k-audio-player
What do people think of this review?
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September 3, 2018, 06:16 AM #166
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I think the review is rubbish. I mean, just read the first paragraph of the conclusion on page 3. Utter gibberish.
I do however pay attention to the JA measurements in these reviews, and his findings of "Esoteric N-01 offers respectable measured performance" is slightly underwhelming for what I hear in my N-01, which is absolutely stunning sonically for everything that I throw at it (however I'm using an external master clock and Halcro dm-8 pre-amp).
And as for the reviewer waffling on about the freezing issue, and after blurbing all that out he ends up saying the problem has been fixed in software, I mean WTF??? Sure, onus on Esoteric to provide a functional review sample with current software, but to expend all those column inches to talk about a non-issue that doesn't exist any more is pedantic and completely needless. And on that point, I've owned my N-01 for almost a year and it has been flawless in operation, not a single instance of flaky behavior.
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September 18, 2018, 12:31 PM #167
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Re: Esoteric N-01
Has anyone compared the N-01 to the Lumin X1?
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September 18, 2018, 01:09 PM #168
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I think X1 has only been out for a short while. It might take a little longer for more people to get their ears on it, let alone compare to anything else.
Hopefully someone might have some thoughts on the comparison.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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September 18, 2018, 01:17 PM #169
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Thanks Joe for the reply!
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September 18, 2018, 01:52 PM #170
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You are very welcome. Give it a little time, I’m sure you’ll get some answers.
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October 22, 2018, 12:58 AM #171
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I just worked out I can stream Spotify to my N-01 without needing a premium subscription. Airplay from iPad Spotify iOS App works great! And it sounds great too! I can't Airplay from a MacBook Air to N-01, but the MacBook can control the iPad running the Spotify App...
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October 23, 2018, 11:38 AM #172
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On your MacBook Air, move the cursor/mouse up to the volume icon at the top of the screen (overall computer volume) and click on it and see if the N-01 is in the list of devices that appear underneath.
At some point in the past, Apple allowed you to send audio to some outside devices. Other devices show up when I click on the volume setting on my 2013 MacBook Pro.
You may yet be able to do it from your MacBook Air.Christian
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October 27, 2018, 02:46 AM #173
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Yes, the N-01 does appear as an audio output device on the MacBook Air. But when I select N-01 from the drop-down list the input source on the N-01 changes to network.
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October 29, 2018, 05:37 AM #174
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October 29, 2018, 05:49 AM #175
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It works on the MacBook differently to how it works on the iPad. I can have Spotify running on iPad and Airplay it directly to N-01. On the MacBook the Airplay icon at the top of the screen does not route to the N-01. Instead you need to open SystemPreferences>Sound and choose N-01 as the output device.
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November 14, 2018, 12:29 AM #176
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There is a new firmware download 11.1b available for N-01.
Something got broken somewhere because I can't play Tidal to the N-01 from the Soundstream App. I can play non-Tidal stuff via Soundstream, so the App is connecting to the device.
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November 15, 2018, 11:56 PM #177
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Again I tested it to be working on N-05.
Log out Tidal from all other devices.
Reenter your login info to the app when controlling N-01.
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November 16, 2018, 01:23 AM #178
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I can navigate the Tidal interface within Soundstream App, put I can't play anything. When I go to play a song in Tidal there is no playback indication at all in the GUI, and no sound from N-01. Streaming from local shares does work in Soundstream.
Did you see that latest Esoteric product announcements at Tokyo show? New model P1X with new VRDS-ATLAS mechanism, new D1X mono-DACs.
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November 16, 2018, 01:45 AM #179
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Yeah, I predicted it was coming, but my local distributor swore black and blue that the next update was still a year away for P1 and D1. He recommended I buy P02X over P1. That was 2 days ago.
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November 16, 2018, 02:28 AM #181
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Soundstream is now showing me this message:
"requested quality is not allowed in users subscription"
My initial subscription, which was extended, was for the highest resolution available.
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November 16, 2018, 02:36 AM #182
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Please clear the Tidal login info in the app and reenter it.
Please make sure you're subscribed to Tidal HiFi, not Tidal Premium.
As a last resort, do a network board reset (clear setting) this way: power off the N-01. Hold the reset pin at the back. Power up the N-01, and keep holding the pin for 20 seconds.
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November 16, 2018, 02:36 AM #183
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brodricj
If you have already logged in and out of Tidal in the Soundstream app as Peter instructed and it still won't play the go into the desktop app on a PC or laptop and check your streaming settings. It has become fairly common lately that after an update is pushed in the desktop app it can drop your streaming preferences back to the Basic setting. A new update to the Tidal app was just pushed in the last couple of days.Main - JVC QL-Y7/Denon DL-301 Mk II, Gold Note PH-10, Jays CDT3 Mk3 , Auralic Aries G2.2, Holo May KTE, Supratek Cabernet, Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks, Verity Audio Otello, (2) Rythmik F12SE, Audio Envy IC, SC & PC's, Triode Wire Lab PC's, Inakustik USB and I2S, (2) Puritan Audio Labs PSM-156 with Groundmaster City, Timbernation rack
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I did that recent desktop update. If using Tidal desktop app as a control point is it possible to use N-01 as the network music renderer? I've only used Tidal to N-01 using the Soundstream.
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It doesn't effect you using it through Soundstream or Mcontrol but the preferences set up in the desktop app are carried through to every other app so you need to make sure they are correct in the desktop app and like Peter said I would log out of Tidal in all three if they are all active and then log back in one at a time with the desktop app first and it should clear it up. This issue only started this year.
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August 21, 2020, 02:46 AM #191
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Now that the N01XD version is coming out, I'm seeing 2 of these N01 in resale markets here in HKG. Are these still worth investing? I'm trying to find an alternative to my aging Aurender S10 which is giving me playback issues.
The N01 would likely be a better unit than my K05x used as a DAC but will it be a big upgrade in sonics? I'm guessing the N01 would have similar Esoteric house sound when compared to the K05X but have read the newer sound (from XS series) are more musical... Anyone here have heard the differences of these units to comment? Many thanks for your advise.dCS Bartok with clock, Esoteric K05x, G-02x, D’Agostino Momentum Stereo, TAD ME-1
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October 29, 2021, 12:29 AM #192
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Re: Esoteric N-01
For legacy N-01 owners I noticed 14.1k NET firmware update is available.
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September 4, 2022, 02:45 PM #193
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Hoping esoteric experts might chime in. My 4 yr old N01 has been flawless in playing tidal and my 5 tb high res files on usb attachtached until yesterday. At first, I could only see the usb disk thru my iPad sound stream app on the network. No esoteric music player. Then after about 20 min, it came back. The next day, neither was visible on iPad soundstream, but it does see my win4500 home network folder. I have swapped out the network extender and it isn’t that. I am getting a green blinking light in the network cable port on the back of the n01. Just no nO1 showing up on the soundstream app. Could this be a hardware issue in the esoteric with the network board?
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September 4, 2022, 06:37 PM #194
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N-01 behaves this way if another device on the network shares the same local IP.
Use a network discovery tool such as Fing, scan the network, and check if another device has the same IP as the N-01.Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
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thanks Peter
I did try power cycling the N01, network router and the iPad with no luck. i didnt turn off all the other devices, so I will try that tomorrow.Avantgarde Duo Mezzo,
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Hi Peter,
i powered off everything and still have the issue with Sound Stream on IPad not seeing my N01. I then downloaded Sound Stream onto my Android phone and was able to connect and control the N01. So I assumed SS app on my IPad might need reloading. I deleted it from my IPad and downloaded a new version and I am still having the same issue. I have an IPad7, 14.8.1 . Have u heard of any SS issues with this version? Or is my next step resetting the network card on the N01?Avantgarde Duo Mezzo,
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September 5, 2022, 07:35 PM #199
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Re: Esoteric N-01
Esoteric Soundstream is compatible with iOS 9.0 and later.
Is the iPad connecting to the wifi network you are expecting?Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
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Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
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