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    Re: Salamander AV furniture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil A View Post
    The OP noted "my problem is that this needs to look like a piece of modern (and enclosed) furniture." So perhaps for his needs it would be best to get things to isolate the components on the shelves - e.g. - http://www.ginkgoaudio.com/product-category/platforms/
    You hit the nail on the head, Phil!

    I've looked at the suggestions here and on the "name your favorite rack" thread, and not surprisingly they tend to be open audio racks that offer great isolation and ventilation. No arguement that something like that would be ideal soncially, but it won't pass my aesthetics committee. Salamander has been interesting to us because they at least make an nod in the direction of ventilation, damping, and rear access, while looking more like furniture than a rack. I can't argue that they're less than ideal from a pure audio standpoint, though. This one has gotten good reviews on appearance from "the committee": http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/pro...5-520877b78c1b (as have others in that Chameleon series). If there's anything out there that has this sort of console / sideboard look but is more audio oriented that Salamander, that's what I'm looking for. If not, we'll go down the Salamander route, and put some effort into component isolation.

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    Re: Salamander AV furniture?

    In my main system (pic was posted several responses ago of both the current Odyssey rack and the Salamander I formerly used in the old house), I have an integrated AV system. My requirements in the new place were for something lower than the 40 inch Salamander towers for the screen height. I originally intended to go with the Adona AV rack. I spoke to the owner right before ground was being broken on the new house. When I was ready to buy, I had sent three emails and made three phone calls (and spoke to him twice) and was basically ignored. At the Capital Audiofest in the summer 2013, I ran into someone in my Northern VA audio group at the time and we grabbed lunch. I mentioned my rack situation to him (and he had Adona racks but not the kind I would want - towers) and he mentioned he was selling his and had ordered an Odyssey rack at RMAF and I should go upstairs and talk to Klaus from Odyssey. So I did. I designed it to my needs (as you or anyone else should do for yours). As I noted it weighs 350 lbs. The bottom shelf is 93 lbs. It works quite well (better than Salamander) with the isolation devices. I even talked to the designer or HRS racks (http://avisolation.com/) before I went to Odyssey. I would have loved to get their racks. However, it probably was going to run me $25k, give or take, for what I would need. If cost were no object, I would have bought something like that.

    A bit of advice with regard to Salamander. When I got the rack, my friend worked at a high end shop and I help set up several. Avoid any of the designs where they have perforated metal panels (e.g on the front doors or sides). Sometimes they can rattle. I still use their Synergy media cabinets (you can see them in the one pic of the old house as they are narrow and made for CD/DVDs/Blu-Rays) in the main system for Blu-Rays. All the rest of my media is in a closet and I'm into file playback for music.
    Main System - Lumin U1, Modwright LS36.5 DM Preamp, Modwright KWA150SE Amp, EMM Labs DAC 2X (ver. 2), Torus RM-20, Thiel CS 3.7s, 2 Rel Storm III subs
    Back-up 1 - HAL MS-2 Music Server, Odyssey Candela Preamp, Bryston 3BST Amp, Meitner MA-1 DAC, 2 Richard Gray cond, Ohm Microwalsh Talls, Rel Strata III sub
    Back-up 2 - HAL MS-3 Music Server, Sherbourn Pre-1, Emotiva XPA 200 Amp, Teac UD-501 DAC, Vansevers cond, B&W P6s, Rel Q150 sub

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    Re: Salamander AV furniture?

    I have a Salamander Synergy Triple, with the perforated front doors for ventilation. Haven't had any rattling issues, but I did notice that one of the doors was significantly warped; Salamander sent me another without any problems. The only other actual problems I have had have been the little door-close shock-absorbing thingies fall off (they're entirely unnecessary anyway) and the locking mechanism in one of my casters broke when I pushed the rack without unlocking it. All in all I feel that it's decent; I have no doubt that you can get better for more $$, but I am not unsatisfied. The finish also tends to show fingerprints and dirt easily, but it's also pretty tough and fairly easy to clean.
    Main system: PS Audio P5, CAPS server w/HDPlex power supply, Hegel H160, AQ Colorado and Rocket 44, Vandersteen Treos, PS Audio DS DAC. NAD M4 tuner, Mcintosh MR74. Analog: Bryston BLP1, Ortofon Quintet Black, customized Tavish Adagio phono pre. AudioSensibility Statement interconnects. Rythmik Audio 15-inch sub. Other stuff: Sequerra Met 7's (original) Met 7 MK. II, REL Q108, Berning ea-230's, Micro Seiki BL51 with Grace and Rega arms. Too much else to list, I am gonna leave a heck of a pile of stuff when I die.

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    Salamander AV furniture?

    I have the Salamander Archetype. It is open; no doors. In my opinion, the looks of the equipment is better than the look of any rack that has doors (not to mention better air flow). If you have nice equipment, don't hide it! Of course ultimately WAF wins.

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    Re: Salamander AV furniture?

    Standout Designs makes great racks that look like furniture. Build quality is outstanding. I’ve had one in my family room for over 5 years.

    www.standoutdesigns.com
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    Re: Salamander AV furniture?

    Nicoff,

    Absolutely. It's all about WAF. But I'd also note that if somebody lets small children into the house they are less likely to mess with shiny stuff if it's behind a door.
    Main system: PS Audio P5, CAPS server w/HDPlex power supply, Hegel H160, AQ Colorado and Rocket 44, Vandersteen Treos, PS Audio DS DAC. NAD M4 tuner, Mcintosh MR74. Analog: Bryston BLP1, Ortofon Quintet Black, customized Tavish Adagio phono pre. AudioSensibility Statement interconnects. Rythmik Audio 15-inch sub. Other stuff: Sequerra Met 7's (original) Met 7 MK. II, REL Q108, Berning ea-230's, Micro Seiki BL51 with Grace and Rega arms. Too much else to list, I am gonna leave a heck of a pile of stuff when I die.

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    Re: Salamander AV furniture?

    Since this thread got resurrected from the dead, I'll chime in to say that we ended up purchasing the Salamander "Chicago", 4-doors wide, 2-shelves tall (the one I linked back on June 15). It fits our room and our gear quite well, though I wish I could get the doors to align just a tiny bit better. It's one of those things where you don't notice it unless you know it's there... Otherwise, we've been quite happy. Gear stays plenty cool enough, even under spirited use, and I haven't noticed any ringing or damping issues so far.
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    Re: Salamander AV furniture?

    I think Salamander works just fine.


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    Living room:
    - McIntosh D1100
    - McIntosh MC601 mono blocks
    - Focal Sopra 2
    - McIntosh MCT450
    - Aurender N10

    Office:
    - McIntosh D1100
    - McIntosh MC452
    - Focal Sopra 1 + Focal Utopia headphones
    - REL T9i subwoofer
    - Aurender N100C

 

 
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