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    If memory serves the stands I tried had like rubber that went against the speaker and the same on the side that went against the floor. I say stands but they only raised the speaker about 5 to 6 inches.

    The experience baffles me, only because I see so much positive comment on these things. I'd say it was the size of my speakers but they make them for B&W and other large models as well.

    Just as a side note, the floating of a speaker goes against the norm, sort of the opposite of spikes. And, what's with the need of all that internal bracing if the speaker will just float?

    I keep open mind though, at one time I couldn't imagine how an upgraded power cord could make any difference, amongst other ear opening events.

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    Were you using one of the GAIA products with carpet spike bases or another IsoAcoustics product? The GAIA speaker isolators by themselves don't have spikes.
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    Re: Isoacoustics Gaia Speaker Isolation

    I believe the basic physics behind the GAIAs and similar offerings, some quite pricey (e.g., Magico MPODs & SPODs), is based on "constraint-layer damping."
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    Constrained-layer damping is a mechanical engineering technique for suppression of vibration. Typically a viscoelastic or other damping material, is sandwiched between two sheets of stiff materials that lack sufficient damping by themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    I believe the basic physics behind the GAIAs and similar offerings, some quite pricey (e.g., Magico MPODs & SPODs), is based on "constraint-layer damping."
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    Constrained-layer damping is a mechanical engineering technique for suppression of vibration. Typically a viscoelastic or other damping material, is sandwiched between two sheets of stiff materials that lack sufficient damping by themselves.

    Constrained-layer damping - Wikipedia

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    Actually the GAIAs are designed to move back and forth front to back. Therefore the instructions to always place the logo facing the front. I do not know or understand all the details but I think it has to do with countering the force of the drivers. I got that information from a representative of the distributor.

    From the website:
    "GAIA provides a high degree of isolation while resisting lateral movement and oscillations to maintain alignment with the listening position. Internal reflections from the hard-supporting surface are attenuated resulting in greater sound clarity and openness."

    Effective or not? Every isolation device I have ever tried had some "magic" formula. Most are sitting in my junk drawer. But some worked very well but not in every application. What I learned is the only way to know for sure is to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    If memory serves the stands I tried had like rubber that went against the speaker and the same on the side that went against the floor. I say stands but they only raised the speaker about 5 to 6 inches.

    The experience baffles me, only because I see so much positive comment on these things. I'd say it was the size of my speakers but they make them for B&W and other large models as well.

    Just as a side note, the floating of a speaker goes against the norm, sort of the opposite of spikes. And, what's with the need of all that internal bracing if the speaker will just float?

    I keep open mind though, at one time I couldn't imagine how an upgraded power cord could make any difference, amongst other ear opening events.
    Sounds like you had something like the ISO-L8R series stands and not the GAIA threaded footer, which is an entirely different product. For me the effect of the GAIAs was very positive on my JBLs.
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    Re: Isoacoustics Gaia Speaker Isolation

    the iso pucks i put under the standmounts clearly improved imaging quite a bit and gave them more `body` and most certainly made a difference . a very flexible option . they hold 9kg each so i guess you might be able put them under a modest floorstander as well . but standmounts or monitor is what they are designed for
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    Rantz, you are correct, I had a stand type thing, not threaded feet.

    This description is exactly what the stand I had was supposed to do. As I mentioned the theory defies logic to me knowing how a driver in a cabinet works. Allowing the cabinet to float would seem to allow enursha, keeping the driver from stopping and starting accurately smearing sound. The amp is supposed to control the driver, on the stands is like steadying jello.

    My speakers are currently using their own spikes and sit on fairly plush carpet over concrete. I wonder if the feet would do anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzie View Post
    Actually the GAIAs are designed to move back and forth front to back. Therefore the instructions to always place the logo facing the front. I do not know or understand all the details but I think it has to do with countering the force of the drivers. I got that information from a representative of the distributor.

    From the website:
    "GAIA provides a high degree of isolation while resisting lateral movement and oscillations to maintain alignment with the listening position. Internal reflections from the hard-supporting surface are attenuated resulting in greater sound clarity and openness."

    Effective or not? Every isolation device I have ever tried had some "magic" formula. Most are sitting in my junk drawer. But some worked very well but not in every application. What I learned is the only way to know for sure is to try.
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    Re: Isoacoustics Gaia Speaker Isolation

    I think different type of speakers require different kinds of footers. Have not tried the Gaias but tried Stillpoints at some point and felt they muddled up the sound (made it more lush, but less precise).

    Back on good ‘ol spikes.


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    Re: Isoacoustics Gaia Speaker Isolation

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    I think different type of speakers require different kinds of footers. Have not tried the Gaias but tried Stillpoints at some point and felt they muddled up the sound (made it more lush, but less precise).

    Back on good ‘ol spikes.

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    I tried Stillpoints under my speakers as well and didn't like the results.
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    Re: Isoacoustics Gaia Speaker Isolation

    I’ve been thinking about putting some pucks under my center channel for a while.


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