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October 20, 2016, 12:26 PM #1
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Best Tube Integrated
Hey Sharks- this isn't a topic that has been discussed recently and I've been thinking about supplementing my DarTZeel with a push/pull tube integrated for my Devore Xs. What's your favorite?
Only requirements are >30 watts + remote, so very flexibleBrinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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October 20, 2016, 12:40 PM #2
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Budget?
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October 20, 2016, 01:53 PM #3
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Re: Best Tube Integrated
I would say 12k-ish
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October 20, 2016, 01:58 PM #4
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VAC i160 iQ (coming soon)
Triode Corp of Japan TRX-88PP (very under rated)
ARC Gsi75 (KT150's)
Are you thinking PP or SET? I haven't seen too many decent SET Integrated Amps.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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October 20, 2016, 02:55 PM #5
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Keith. I would recommend the Leben CS600 If you can live without the remote
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October 20, 2016, 03:16 PM #6
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The Vinnie Rossi LIO has been getting a lot of love at shows and on other forums, although I haven't heard it and technically it is a hybrid. The LIO is configurable, with an SET pre-amp or E88CC+autoformer volume the latest/greatest option.
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/vinnierossi2/1.html
http://www.vinnierossi.com/lio-integrated-amplifier/
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October 20, 2016, 04:00 PM #7
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I think the Octave V80 SE with KT-150s is quite a good contender for a tube integrated. Does not sound very tubey lush though.
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October 20, 2016, 04:02 PM #8
Re: Best Tube Integrated
Great suggestions here guys!
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October 20, 2016, 04:05 PM #9
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Re: Best Tube Integrated
Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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October 20, 2016, 05:01 PM #10
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How about the Rogers 34S.....believe it's around 20K MSRP. So probably outside yout target range of 12K. Uses four EL 34's per side. Looks interesting though.
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October 20, 2016, 05:47 PM #11
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October 20, 2016, 05:49 PM #12
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Raven Audio Reflection Mk2
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October 20, 2016, 06:45 PM #13
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Keith,
Don't laugh but the Jolida line of integrateds should be on your list. My Fusion 3502 is wonderful. I think there might be a model or two up the line that are better now. They are not much money but perform well above their price points.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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NAD C 658 streamer.
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Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
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October 20, 2016, 07:35 PM #14
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My two favourite tubed integrated amplifiers is Einstein Audio The Amp Ultimate and the Absolare Passion Integrated amp, closely followed by the Vac 160iSE. All great options.
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October 20, 2016, 07:53 PM #15
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I would second the vote for the ARC.
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October 20, 2016, 08:10 PM #16
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I'll second the Octave V80SE and I would also highly recommend the black or super black box (lowers the noise floor even more while adding a hair more of headroom).
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October 21, 2016, 09:32 AM #17
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Re: Best Tube Integrated
good morning Keith!
I got, fairly recently, a Triode TRX 88PP with KIT 88 tubes, from Mike Bovaird. I LOVE IT. I am still a beginner, you said 30 watts/channel.
http://www.triode.co.jp/english/prod.html
class A, push pull, 50 watts. it gets HOT. I love it! big step up for me. looks quite well made to me, and has a nice remote. as a newbie, I love tubes! have fun looking
best regards
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October 21, 2016, 09:36 AM #18
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Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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October 21, 2016, 09:47 AM #19
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Take a listen to the Line Magnetic 508ia.....great match with the X's. ( I know you said that you prefer push-pull, but this SET is really quite incredible on the bottom end).
And you may be surprised at what a Cary SLI80 (with all their factory upgrades) can do with the X's. (and it looks like CaryDirect is having a 25% off sale currently)Goldprint Audio -- Dealer For: PS Audio -- Leben -- KEF -- Line Magnetic -- DeVore Fidelity -- Joseph Audio -- Sugden -- Rogue Audio -- Manley Labs -- VPI Industries -- Bel Canto -- Alta Audio -- Tannoy -- Rega -- Kimber Kable -- Ortofon -- Chord -- Sonos -- Quadraspire -- Salamander -- SVS Sound -- Torus Power -- Audio Desk -- Gingko -- Auditorium 23 -- Box Furniture -- Krell -- Cary Audio -- Soundsmith -- EMT
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October 21, 2016, 10:29 AM #20
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that line magnetic is COOL looking!!
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October 21, 2016, 11:59 AM #21
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Thanks - funny you mention LM Audio as I have made an appt to hear the 501 integrated in a few weeks - I don't think its really going to be my cup of tea, but at least I can hear it on my Xs.
I've owned both Tri (845SE) and Cary (V12) amps and they are too warm for me. I must say Cary's SLP98 preamp is one of my all time favs- just so damn musical and I have owned it 2x.
Vac and Octave recommendations seem more my style (if anyone has heard both, I'd love to read about the differences). I'm also entertaining Jadis as their recent amps are not as old school tube sound.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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October 21, 2016, 01:11 PM #22
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If you want to save about $7k, then buy a Primaluna Premium Dialogue HP!
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October 22, 2016, 02:21 AM #26
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Vtl it-85
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October 24, 2016, 02:43 AM #27
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very happy with my jadis da50 - but with 32 kg it takes some time to warm up (2 hours for best sound)...
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October 24, 2016, 11:46 AM #28
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Not so bad , my Ayon Crossfire is over 45 kg monster.
If somebody wants a SET , it' s a serious contender for best tube integrated.Aurender W20->Lampizator Pacific SE/Audio Aero La Fontaine->Ayon Crossfire III or Circle Labs A100-> Avantgarde Acoustic Trio LE 26, 4x REL Carbon Special Subwoofers
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October 24, 2016, 02:52 PM #29
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congrats - the crossfire is really a fantasic sounding amp.
hifi:
power: Audioplan Powerstar, Audioplan Finefilter, Audioplan Powerplant, Powercord
tube amp: Jadis DA 50 Signature RC, Line Magnetic 508ia
speaker: Living Voice Avatar 2
turntable: Pro-Ject Xtension 10 + Ortofon Quintet Black MC
phono stage: Remton 383 MKII
cables: Audioplan Musicable bic 7a, Profigold, Wilbrand
home-cinema: Sony blu-ray, Yamaha rx v2700, Heco Metas 700 (4x), Heco center
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October 24, 2016, 04:34 PM #30
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Thank you , Tube-Vds, it really is
Aurender W20->Lampizator Pacific SE/Audio Aero La Fontaine->Ayon Crossfire III or Circle Labs A100-> Avantgarde Acoustic Trio LE 26, 4x REL Carbon Special Subwoofers
Analog : Fat Bob S with SME 5, Shelter Harmony, Tom Evans Groove+ SRX mk2, Muarah PSC with InteliClamp
cabling: Duelund DCA 16GA, Acrolink, Vovox, Siltech, Transparent, Audio Phase , NxLT The Flame, FTA Callisto and Sinope usb, Fadel Art , Argentum , REL Bassline Blue
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October 25, 2016, 05:19 PM #32
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The under loved Rogers EHF 200 MkII. Read the T.A.S. review but more important, give it a listen if you can find one.
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October 31, 2016, 12:01 AM #33
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My favorite tube gear is Octave Audio. The only model integrated I heard was the one selling around $4500 without the power supply upgrade. Just basic like that it was able to drive Dynaudio C2's. OA with it's transparency and control blows tube stereotypes away, yet it has that tube presence or 3D image to the presentation.
If I ever had doubts I'd compare the Octave to Jadis and Raven, both was sounding good at Axpona. Not sure if separates, Raven displayed some amazing sound with the Legacy V.
Despite the technology though, Octave just seems to do everything right to my ears.Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB, Esoteric N05xd
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November 1, 2016, 04:53 AM #34
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November 1, 2016, 09:20 PM #35
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Any update Keith ?
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November 2, 2016, 10:58 AM #36
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Yes, Paul I've narrowed the field:
Vac Sigma SE
Octave V80se
Jadis I50
LM Audio 501a
I have a strong lean to Jadis at this point with Vac coming in second. As mentioned before, I have an LM Audio demo coming up at my Devore dealer which will be good, generally speaking, to hear a "warm" KT-120 integrated on my speakers.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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November 2, 2016, 12:05 PM #37
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I'd like to second both LMA or Octave, yet I can't speak on whether or not they've remotes?, but as someone whom had owned a pair of DeVore Fidelity Gibbon 3s, and having heard nearly all of his designs ( John ) it seems they like to be matched with a amp with a somewhat lush signature ( here I'm talking Shindo Labs ), yet can just as easily be paired with something harder hitting dynamically speaking, provided it doesn't have to much of a solid state signature.
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Hi Keith, just curious your thoughts on the Octave, why it didn't fair better and what was it driving? I wouldn't say Octave is opposite of warm but it's definitely not the stereotype, warm lush type of tube gear. If it is warm lush you are looking for Jadis may not be your thing either.
We all like what we like, I just enjoy hearing other people's opinions on stuff I've heard. ThanksAurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB, Esoteric N05xd
Mark Levinson #526, 534 & JBL 4367's
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SVS PC13 Ultra
Transparent, Analysis Plus & Tributaries. PS Audio filtering
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I heard the Octave with Dynaudio at RMAF and thought it sounded fantastic - see my show review. I'm just leaning to try a bit warmer amp as I think it might be a better match with my speakers. Another way of saying it is i'm probably looking for something in between the Dartzeel/Devore and Shindo/Devore combinations.
Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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November 3, 2016, 12:59 PM #42
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November 3, 2016, 01:03 PM #43
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I'd say stick to your guns and ride out something from Shindo, as there's a synergy going on here that's second to none, the only brand I've heard that offers a similar sense of warmth or refinement were Kondo | Audio Note Japan and Air Tight, and do take into account the lushness you seek can be altered with tubes as well as cabling.
Now if you can get beyond the need for a remote?, then I'd say you're good to go.
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Yeah, I realize that John designs with Shindo - which is why I want to try a tube integrated in the first place. He's a cool dude and I chatted with him and JH at RMAF. In fact, he was very complementary of my Dart. Shindo sound is a bit "too much" to my ears if that makes any sense, hence the continuum I mentioned earlier.
My personal situation requires a remote (wheelchair). Vinyl is tough enough lolBrinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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November 3, 2016, 04:30 PM #47
Re: Best Tube Integrated
i hear ya, yet can't understand the Shindo is too much statement........, but I'll roll with it.
And as someone with severe gout flare ups, and was forced to give up vinyl playback in 2010, I know your pains all to well. Here's willing you well with your quest, and even more so in the upcoming Holidays to come.
And above all, do keep your spirits and head up, as things could always be worst ( which is something I remind others all the time ) as some tend to take health and life for granted......
_o scar
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November 17, 2016, 11:38 AM #48
Re: Best Tube Integrated
Conrad Johnson makes a killer integrated.
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November 17, 2016, 11:40 AM #49
Re: Best Tube Integrated
I would like to try this:
http://www.ptpaudio.com/blok20
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November 17, 2016, 11:44 AM #50
Re: Best Tube Integrated
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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