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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    For anyone who has already got Roon running with Lumin, it may be a worthwhile experiment to try out the Roon PCM->DSD upsampling - DSD128 for S1, DSD64 for A1 / T1 / D1. See if it sounds better or different or not. Please be aware that Roon by default applies -6dB for this conversion (-3dB in DSD Gain Adjustment and -3dB in Headroom Adjustment), which can be adjusted (note: watch the headroom management indicator if you do that).





    For those who want to compare Roon upsampling with Lumin built-in upsampling, please note that after you adjust the Lumin app resampling settings, please play a music using Lumin app, before switching back to Roon, otherwise the changed resampling setting may not take effect.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    The S1 might be a viable option and if MQA hardware decoding is added a winner.
    Thanks for the consideration. Yes, we're working on MQA.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Hi Peter.
    For three days I have a trial version of Roon with the Core installed on a PC (without audio optimization), which connects to the same switch as the NAS. After a generic cable Cat 7 of about 8 meters arrives until the room where is the Switch Aqvox and of this, a cable of 1,5 meters until the Lumin. I am playing the same audio files, hosted on the NAS! Sometimes from Lumin application therefore using Minimserver / UPnP and others using Roon / RAAT. My question is this; When a file comes from Roon / RAAT and reaches the Lumin, it goes through the same digital circuits before reaching the DAC Wolfson, that when it arrives until the Lumin by Minimserver / UPnP?. I am very intested in the answer, because what I am hearing is very rare.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Audio data flow on the network:
    - NAS MinimServer -> network switches -> Lumin
    - NAS file system -> network switch - > Roon Core -> network switches -> Lumin

    Within Lumin, the digital paths are not completely the same, but both are lossless bitperfect (unless user selects a resampling):
    - With UPnP music it uses an HTTP download mechanism, goes through file type detection and file (e.g. FLAC) decoding, user-selected resampling (only if necessary), then on to PCM or DSD playback.
    - With Roon it receives PCM or DSD via the RAAT SDK, goes through user-selected resampling (only if necessary), then on to PCM or DSD playback.

    Do you find any SQ difference?

    Beware that if you have Tidal in Roon, you may have duplicate albums from both Tidal and your own NAS - you need to be sure that you're streaming your own version to do a proper comparison.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    question..I am playing my system using Roon now and it is superb. I am not sure, however, that i have it set up correctly. rrwmd ...in his post a few days ago showed a picture of his screen showing the Lumin name at the bottom of the screen shot with an icon of the player above it. in that same screen i have the lumin name noted but above mine is a small 'speaker'...is this correct..? also..when i push the blue dot, to the right of some of the tracks i am playing the algorithm ends at the bottom with 'apple airplay' ...is that correct..?..sorry if this is a beginners screw up..
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Please go to Roon Audio Setup, find Lumin under "Networked roon ready" devices, enable it and assign it a zone name. Then find Lumin under "Airplay" and disable it.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    If Lumin is playing as a Roon Ready device, it'll support Hi-res and DSD playback.

    AirPlay (regardless of brand / model) will cause Roon to downsample playback of any music to 16/44.1.
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    Peter..thanks..i did what you suggested and pushed the 'disable' option and after that the 'airplay' section now says 'enabled'.....is this correct.?
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by calloway View Post
    Peter..thanks..i did what you suggested and pushed the 'disable' option and after that the 'airplay' section now says 'enabled'.....is this correct.?
    That doesn't sound right, you want to disable AirPlay so that your Lumin is playing as a Roon Ready device supporting high-res files without downsampling for AirPlay.

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    that is why it is confusing..when i hit the gears and then touch the 'disable' indicator the Airplay/Lumin section then says 'Enabled'....not disabled'''??
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    In the Roon ready/Lumin A1 section is there supposed to be a red 'Uncertified' label.?
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Quote Originally Posted by calloway View Post
    that is why it is confusing..when i hit the gears and then touch the 'disable' indicator the Airplay/Lumin section then says 'Enabled'....not disabled'''??
    On the iPad I use, it says Enable not Enabled. Enable means "to enable this currently-disabled device". Yes it is confusing.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by calloway View Post
    In the Roon ready/Lumin A1 section is there supposed to be a red 'Uncertified' label.?
    We shipped a D1 for the certification process. It doesn't make sense for us to ship all models to certify, because many models run the same firmware binary. We're working with Roon Labs to clear up the certification display, but these things take time. Please do not worry about the red label.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    WOW..that is confusing..thanks..it does say 'Enable'..not 'enabled'..great..thanks Peter..dave
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    I've talked to Roon Labs and they'll improve the setup flow for newly discovered Roon Ready devices in the future.
    Peter Lie
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonesup View Post
    Hi Peter.
    For three days I have a trial version of Roon with the Core installed on a PC (without audio optimization), which connects to the same switch as the NAS. After a generic cable Cat 7 of about 8 meters arrives until the room where is the Switch Aqvox and of this, a cable of 1,5 meters until the Lumin. I am playing the same audio files, hosted on the NAS! Sometimes from Lumin application therefore using Minimserver / UPnP and others using Roon / RAAT. My question is this; When a file comes from Roon / RAAT and reaches the Lumin, it goes through the same digital circuits before reaching the DAC Wolfson, that when it arrives until the Lumin by Minimserver / UPnP?. I am very intested in the answer, because what I am hearing is very rare.
    So whats the verdict on Roon for you? As Peter asked is there a sound difference you are hearing?


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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Hi.
    Since I sent that post, I have received my new Melco and a mini PC to have Roon core connected to the Aqvox switch. I am traveling for a few days, when I return and do a quiet listening, I will publish my impressions.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by Elem79 View Post
    Let me start by saying thank you for the continued support by Lumďn. However after listening for the better part of a month to Roon against the proprietary software on my Lumďn S1, I've come to the conclusion, in my opinion, the Lumďn software sounds best.

    Roon just doesn't sound as engaging to me or as quiet as Lumďn. Roon sounds a little bloated and not as precise to me.

    For reference I've run Roon on Windows 10 pro, windows sever R2, and finally Linux which sounded best by far, but still lags behind Lumin's on software. Again just my opinion.


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    Hello,

    For the past few days I have tried Roon on a dedicated Windows PC running Server R2. I have to say that I agree with Elem79, regarding comparisons between Roon and Lumin software. Although Roon recommend a dedicated QNAP NAS server, I would want some reassurance that this would sound better than my Lumin L1 with Kenneth Lau PSU.

    I presume Lumin have done comparisons between a Roon NAS server and their own L1; it would be interesting to know their thoughts.

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Welcome to the forum Peter, thank you for joining.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by petercalv View Post
    Although Roon recommend a dedicated QNAP NAS server, I would want some reassurance that this would sound better than my Lumin L1 with Kenneth Lau PSU.
    I presume Lumin have done comparisons between a Roon NAS server and their own L1; it would be interesting to know their thoughts.
    If I'm not mistaken, I think Roon Labs is encouraging people to use Intel NUC running ROCK instead of NAS:
    http://kb.roonlabs.com/Roon_Optimized_Core_Kit

    Discussions about what hardware sounds best for running Roon:
    https://community.roonlabs.com/t/sou...grams/22674/75

    This may come as a surprise, but SQ evaluation is not really part of my job. For Roon Ready certification, it is a requirement that devices playing from Roon give a sound quality equivalent to their native means of playback. Even if I were to hear anything different (I didn't), I would not be able to say it.

    From a firmware point of view, it's the same lossless audio bits that go into the playback hardware. From a CPU and network processing point perspective, there is indeed higher CPU utilization and more network traffic when using Roon.

    When comparing a high CPU power Roon server against L1 + LPS, the former is likely disadvantaged due to typically noisy PC power supply, considering that the NUC is probably not much more expensive than your LPS.

    Roon Labs CTO says it'd be fine as long as you are "isolating it properly" - "Isolating audio gear from RFI/EMI is important regardless of anything else. This is why high quality power supplies and tools for filtering/isolating ethernet, USB, and line power make a difference."

    I'm always interested in hearing users' thoughts regarding SQ.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, I think Roon Labs is encouraging people to use Intel NUC running ROCK instead of NAS:
    http://kb.roonlabs.com/Roon_Optimized_Core_Kit

    Discussions about what hardware sounds best for running Roon:
    https://community.roonlabs.com/t/sou...grams/22674/75

    This may come as a surprise, but SQ evaluation is not really part of my job. For Roon Ready certification, it is a requirement that devices playing from Roon give a sound quality equivalent to their native means of playback. Even if I were to hear anything different (I didn't), I would not be able to say it.

    From a firmware point of view, it's the same lossless audio bits that go into the playback hardware. From a CPU and network processing point perspective, there is indeed higher CPU utilization and more network traffic when using Roon.

    When comparing a high CPU power Roon server against L1 + LPS, the former is likely disadvantaged due to typically noisy PC power supply, considering that the NUC is probably not much more expensive than your LPS.

    Roon Labs CTO says it'd be fine as long as you are "isolating it properly" - "Isolating audio gear from RFI/EMI is important regardless of anything else. This is why high quality power supplies and tools for filtering/isolating ethernet, USB, and line power make a difference."

    I'm always interested in hearing users' thoughts regarding SQ.
    Thank you for this Peter. To elaborate more on the PC I used, it is part of a two PC system I used with JPlay as my playback software. It has separate HDPlex linear power supplies. JPlay was my reference playback software for quite some time until I heard a Lumin A1. I was so impressed I bought the S1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calloway View Post
    In the Roon ready/Lumin A1 section is there supposed to be a red 'Uncertified' label.?
    With the latest Roon update, this is fixed.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Hi Peter.
    Do you know why Roon does not upsampling to 384 and 352.8 and only does it to 192 and 176.4, when Lumin can handle the higher frequencies?
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    That's a limitation with the current Lumin models (except U1).

    (Just got back from vacation)
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    Hi Peter.
    1. If I understood Lumin well (except U1) they can accept PCM files 352.8 and 384 for UPnP but not for RAAT. I would be curious to know the reason, if you can explain it.

    2. It has an approximate date, in which Lumin decodes the MQA files
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    I'm sorry but that's a hardware limitation, and I cannot provide a date for public firmware release - this is something out of our control and more work needs to be done by both MQA Ltd. and us. On a slightly positive note, Lumin is demoing S1 playing MQA at Munich, after receiving blessing from MQA Ltd. for S1 audio quality for MQA playback.

    Lumin U1 also supports 352.8kHz and 384kHz, as long as the DAC is connected via USB and the DAC itself supports these sampling rates.
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    Peter

    I assume you are aware the Auralic, one of the original MQA partners, has now released their own version of "MQA" decoding.
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    Yes, I'm aware of that. It's likely to be its own upsampling tuned for MQA music, since they claim that "This process is not an MQA-created or MQA-licensed process" in their firmware release notes. They were indeed the original partner, but then this happened:
    https://www.computeraudiophile.com/f...comment=555554
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    For those who are using Roon, please upgrade Roon Core to Build 234, and Lumin to Firmware 8.04. The new Lumin firmware contains optimizations for Roon Build 234, and may possibly improve SQ.

    Feedback on SQ for this upgrade is much appreciated. Thanks.
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    If we are not Roon users, would we hear a SQ difference?
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    peter..where do you upgrade to 8.04..i only see the 8.02..
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by erniejade View Post
    If we are not Roon users, would we hear a SQ difference?
    No. For Roon playback only.
    Peter Lie
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by calloway View Post
    peter..where do you upgrade to 8.04..i only see the 8.02..
    Please kill the Lumin app and run it again.
    Peter Lie
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Peter...'kill the Lumin app and run it again'....not sure I understand?
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    If Lumin app does not prompt you to firmware upgrade, double click the iPad Home button, swipe away the Lumin app to kill it. Then launch Lumin app.
    Peter Lie
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Peter..it still says 8.02 in the firmware section
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Quote Originally Posted by calloway View Post
    Peter..it still says 8.02 in the firmware section
    Make sure "Check for firmware updates" set to YES

    lumin app
    gear icon ->options

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Peter..it is set to 'yes' on check for firmware. Still says 8.02...
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Have you killed the app and restarted the app as post #85?
    Peter Lie
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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Peter. Yes. I double clicked the home button and flipped the page away and restarted the app.. i.e. I then restarted the app by tapping it open. The firmware indicator still says 8.02... dave

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Please:
    1. Power cycle the Lumin A1
    2. Reboot the iPad
    3. Use iPad and browse www.luminmusic.com to make sure it is accessible to your setup
    4. Launch Lumin app
    5. Normally the app should prompt you to upgrade
    Peter Lie
    LUMIN Firmware Lead

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Peter...that worked. Thanks a lot..dave
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin NOW works with ROON

    Music,to me,sounds better through the Lumin app than through the Roon app. Roon seems to somehow slightly soften the presentation.
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
    Audience-Studio One RCA interconnect
    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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