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August 15, 2016, 04:39 PM #1
Rockport Lyra
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Rockport's first time using aluminum. Following in Magico's footsteps? Hmmm...My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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August 15, 2016, 05:35 PM #2
Re: Rockport Lyra
Wow, they are following Goldmund, Krell, Magico and YG footseps with aluminium enclosure.
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August 15, 2016, 06:07 PM #3
Re: Rockport Lyra
Hmmm, has a nice ring to it
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August 15, 2016, 06:40 PM #4
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wow- 150k!
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August 15, 2016, 10:59 PM #5
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Re: Rockport Lyra
Wow 150K! I guess I won't be putting my poor little Cygnus up for sale any time soon towards an upgrade!
Actually Mike, Andy used aluminum for the front baffle in both the (ahem, my ) Cygnus as well as the Atria, but you are right, the Lyra is the first Aluminum Enclosure from Rockport, albeit in a constrained layer construction with an inner and outer aluminum shell with the middle layer filled with an epoxy granite co-polymer, so no ring Joe . The construction is called DAMSTIF. I think this construction is unique thus far in the high end. I can hardly wait to hear them! I've had my Cygnus for less than a week and I'm already pining for another beau.
Kerry
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August 16, 2016, 10:40 AM #6
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Re: Rockport Lyra
does Rockport exhibit at RMAF?
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August 16, 2016, 10:41 AM #7
Rockport Lyra
Typically yes
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August 16, 2016, 10:49 AM #8
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Re: Rockport Lyra
Smart Money says that the Lyra will be there, but Rockport has not yet taken a room. Perhaps Andy will be exhibiting with Doshi electronics.
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August 16, 2016, 11:34 PM #9
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August 17, 2016, 12:17 AM #10
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These?
https://youtu.be/sU7rugLhgyI
Seriously?
From the Magico website: "MAGICO has pioneered the use of aluminum in loudspeakers design. We built our first aluminum enclosure back in 1994 and have never looked back. Extremely stiff yet easy to damp, a properly designed aluminum enclosure is the ideal platform for high-performance loudspeakers. So inert, the enclosures have no discernible coloration of their own-allowing the drivers to operate with the utmost clarity and dynamics. Though costly to implement, the use of aluminum in our enclosures plays a vital role in our design philosophy."
Me thinks there's a difference between:
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August 17, 2016, 12:20 AM #11Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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August 17, 2016, 12:42 AM #12
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Re: Rockport Lyra
Actually quite seriously. 1994 is pretty late to the party.
Braun Output C was the original mid module in the original WAMM in the late 70's. The enclosure was cast just as the new Rockport is. They were hardly the first.
Aluminum is not new on any level. There were others back then as well.
As I said, what's old is new again.
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August 17, 2016, 01:47 AM #13
Rockport Lyra
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August 17, 2016, 01:52 AM #14
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August 17, 2016, 07:32 AM #15
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Wow, didn't know that those Brauns had the aluminium enclosure. Do you know what is the exact model name ? I would buy a pair myself, just for fun.
I thought it was Goldmund, in the early 80s, who pioneered the use of aluminium in a speaker design in their Apologue model.
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August 17, 2016, 08:40 AM #16
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August 17, 2016, 09:14 AM #18
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Re: Rockport Lyra
I think its worth repeating that the Lyra, to the best of my knowledge is the first aluminum - polymer layered composite enclosure, this is another method to achieve a tremendous reduction in the natural tendency of aluminum to 'ring out', the other being the heroic internal bracing employed by Magico. Which method is 'more' Heroic is up to you.
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August 17, 2016, 09:45 AM #19
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Thanks for the info.
I believe the full name of the Braun speaker is Output Compact:
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/braun_output_compact.html
The one with the mounting bracket is C8 or L100.
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August 17, 2016, 09:55 AM #20
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I owned both, including a couple of pairs mounted on the back deck of BMWs (2002, 320i, 528i) in the 70s/early 80s. At the same time, ADS was building active car speakers with Braun drivers - the 2001 and 2002. Had both of those as well - mounted in a 66 Mustang convertible.
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August 20, 2016, 10:00 AM #21
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That is right. However I don't believe Magico was the first in using aluminum housing in a high-end speaker though. As an example Piega from Switzerland is building high-end, superb quality speakers for more than 25 years.
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/swiss-jewel/
The Piega MLS2 was reviewed in the August edition of Audio magazine and ended on top just behind the Gauder Berlin RC9. I know this is just an opinion but it says something coming from a highly respected magazine.
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November 11, 2016, 03:08 PM #22
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Any further news on these? For such a significant product introduction it´s been awfully quiet since the initial August impressions.
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November 29, 2016, 11:11 AM #23
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There is a video on YouTube detailing the construction methods of the Lyra. Because I do not have 10 posts (moderators, are you freaking kidding me?!!!!!) I cannot post the link, but its on YouTube.
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November 29, 2016, 11:22 AM #24
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True, Magico was not the first, they have taken it to a different level
thou ...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TjOCuFZcU
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November 29, 2016, 11:56 AM #25
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At A.Wayne- That's the video, thank you.
On a seperate note,Rockport must be increasing their production capability. I see that they are being carried in more stores than in the past (which was Goodwins pretty much).
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November 29, 2016, 12:52 PM #26
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Lyra DAMSTIF
Some who have heard this speaker report this to be Andy Payor's best effort to date!
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November 29, 2016, 01:06 PM #27
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Alloy speaker shoot out next ... Rockport vs Magico vs YG
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December 7, 2016, 05:22 AM #29
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December 7, 2016, 06:59 AM #30
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Wow, congrats. Are you gonna drive it with the Ayre integrated you have ?
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Lots of new Rockport owners. Congrats
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April 16, 2017, 03:59 PM #33
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I´m surprised how very little info there is available on the Lyra´s sound as of now, has anyone listened to them? Is Rockport going to be showing these at Munich? No news is probably good news for Rockport since it probably means the speakers sell themselves.
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May 25, 2017, 12:58 PM #35
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They sounded wonderful in Munich. #1 room for me.
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May 25, 2017, 01:25 PM #36
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+1 .. one of the best rooms for me as well
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Thanks guys, there seems to be very good synergy between Absolare and Rockport every year at Munich.
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August 11, 2017, 08:01 AM #38
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Red Lyra at HK show 2017.My blogs Wizard High-End Audio Blog & Wizard Ultimate
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August 11, 2017, 08:13 AM #39
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Odyssey did an audition of the Rockport Lyra at a U.S. dealer. Perhaps he will comment on his impressions of the speakers.
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August 11, 2017, 02:14 PM #40
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I heard them today at the HK hifi show. They still sound like Rockports - slightly dark and smooth
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Yes XV Fair comment --I've owned Rockports(Syzygy's) and concur on the sound evaluation--I drove them with Jadis Monos that alleviated 99% of that trait quite comfortably.
I did enjoy the speaker, however the Eton Drivers suffered from foam Rot as they aged-and with no original components still available I sold them.
They were a fine product though.
Further to your HKG experience can't say I'm surprised--seeing the choice of VTL's driving --those amps always give me the impression they are struggling to keep up with the music
I'd pass on those!
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I wonder what does dark sounding mean? I see reviewers sometimes use that description.
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August 11, 2017, 11:34 PM #43
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August 12, 2017, 07:09 AM #44
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Le Roy
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Or the Celestion SL600 from 1983:
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