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    Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Some interesting philosophical questions he brings up, what is truth and neutrality in music reproduction.

    I'm beyond pleased with my STP-SE and likely will never need another linestage. Very interested to hear how the Level 2 upgrades compare.

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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Impressive build quality and execution, especially considering the value offered at the price!

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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Surprised to read that it's not truly passive though at the lower volume settings, which is how I've always heard it described. Nice of Srajan to point out that it uses discrete buffers on either side of its stepped attenuator matrix level control, which makes it technically an active (possibly zero gain) line stage in my book.

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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    I think its their second review, here is the first one back in 2009 http://6moons.com/audioreviews/wyred2/preamp.html
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    My STP-SE is absolutely a stunning value. I love mine too.

    I am also very curious about the stage 2 upgrades, , not that I need them, , but have definitely wanted them for a long time.
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    My STP-SE is absolutely a stunning value. I love mine too.

    I am also very curious about the stage 2 upgrades, , not that I need them, , but have definitely wanted them for a long time.
    I feel the same way about the "enhancement Stages" but I've never read what these upgrades provide for the music you hear, vs just being a whole lot better components.
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    I may be able to help you guys out considering the optional upgrades. I've had some passive line stages in the past (in my younger and more vulnerable years...) and I found the upgrade from Dale or Caddock resistors to Vishays to be quite significant. I experienced an enhanced level of transparency along with a much more seductively smooth and relaxed sound from the change, well worth the expense for an audiophile!

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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Uh oh
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Quote Originally Posted by audio.bill View Post
    I may be able to help you guys out considering the optional upgrades. I've had some passive line stages in the past (in my younger and more vulnerable years...) and I found the upgrade from Dale or Caddock resistors to Vishays to be quite significant. I experienced an enhanced level of transparency along with a much more seductively smooth and relaxed sound from the change, well worth the expense for an audiophile!
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    I have to agree about the Vishays. I have tried them in several different amps now, and am quite shocked at the large improvements, especially in transparency. At least as big a change as going from a cheap no name polypropylene capacitor to a good teflon cap (but the Vishays also sound more "natural" which teflon caps often don't to me). Can't imagine that the Vishays wouldn't make a significant improvement.
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    So when does it get shipped back to California Joe?
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Probably a month or two, why not?
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    Knew you couldn't resist ... go for it...
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Well Joe, I hope you provide a complete review of how the upgrade has influenced your listening pleasure, comparison on songs using your acute memory recall of course. Can't wait. I gots to know
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Too bad I am not a detail oriented person.


    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Well Joe, I hope you provide a complete review of how the upgrade has influenced your listening pleasure, comparison on songs using your acute memory recall of course. Can't wait. I gots to know
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Well at least you can rest assured that Srajen's review of the upgrade will include all of that and more in page after page. Problem for almost all of us is that most of the equipment in his system, especially the speakers, are components we have never seen or heard. But he does seem to like to give the "little" guy exposure and his just due.
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    I'm happy to have apparently been an enabler for Joe regarding this upgrade, and look forward to his impressions in due time.
    Guess my credibility's on the line!

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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Like I need an enabler . But seriously, you and Jack have never steered me wrong.

    I have some gear changes ahead and when I free up the STP-SE, I'll make the arrangements.



    Quote Originally Posted by audio.bill View Post
    I'm happy to have apparently been an enabler for Joe regarding this upgrade, and look forward to his impressions in due time.
    Guess my credibility's on the line!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Like I need an enabler . But seriously, you and Jack have never steered me wrong.

    I have some gear changes ahead and when I free up the STP-SE, I'll make the arrangements.
    ah , get moving Joe
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    , Ha!

    Patience grasshopper.
    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    ah , get moving Joe
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    hehe... he just called you a grasshopper....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    hehe... he just called you a grasshopper....
    At least it wasn't an old grasshopper.
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    You guys are too funny. It won't happen until late next month. But I really want to do the update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    At least it wasn't an old grasshopper.
    And it wasnt "the" grass hopper ....

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    Ahhhh...
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    The full review of Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE Stage 2 is up. In summary, "twice" in a Blue Moon Award.

    Now I'm really tempted to sent my STP-SE for Stage 2 upgrade.
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    Yeah, it looks like he really liked it and you are right it is tempting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yeah, it looks like he really liked it and you are right it is tempting.
    yep it's tempting
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Well I have decided, I am going back to a Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE pre-amplifier! When I had one in the past I really liked it but I was just relearning this crazy world and needed to experiment some. But now that I have gotten the system more stabilized and more completed I can't think of a better pre-amplifier to add in without going a ton more money!

    I think I will keep the Benchmark as the DAC for now. I know the Oppo new one is about to be released but for my use the Benchmark makes more sense for a couple reasons. It has the new generation ESS, and I know the Oppo has the 9038. I do not believe there will be a huge difference from the 9028 to the 9038, but most important is I already have it and it is paid for .... however what is actaully more important is that it has a top notch headphone amplifier that drives my Sennheiser HD800S perfectly (whihc is a requirement for me). Having it as a backup pre-amplifier is also a pretty good thing to!
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    Re: Review: Wyred4Sound's STP-SE ....

    Joe.......Thanks for the link to the 6Moons review of the Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE2 preamplifier. It was an interesting review and points out that the Stage 2 upgrade is the only way to go with this preamplifier. From Srajan Ebaen's comments the Stage 2 upgrade takes a good preamplifier and turns it into reference preamplifier. Even more interesting is the price still manages to remain under $4k. Quite an audiophile bargain for that level of performance.
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    Thanks Dan, I agree. I love the stp-se and am eager to have the upgrade done. It's one of those pieces that you get, install in your system and forget about. Meaning that it does its job, sounds great and does not call attention to itself. A piece that satisfies and now with the stage 2 upgrades, should be amazing.
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    I wish I had mailed my STP to EJ while on vacation as it would have been upgraded and shipped back before I returned in 2 more weeks.
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    I think I will play around with the STP-SE and maybe in another six months or so have EJ upgrade it for me. Got to save for a bit after getting the classic little ARC and getting the STP-SE back in my system (tomorrow!!!!!!)...
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    STP-SE in the house... one smooth pre-amplifier... setting the Benchmark at about 2 o'clock position gets me up into the 40's on the W4S level display with the ARC amp at medium levels. So I should have a much better range then I used to have. The internal jumpers on the Benchmark are still set at -20 dB on the XLR outputs... but I think that works nicely because it gives a much better range of control on the STP-SE?
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    So happy for you Randy. It's an awesome preamp. Very under-rated for sure.
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    Thank you Joe... it really is a great unit.

    I just found the HT mode on the Benchmark, designed for when using with a pre-amplifier... bypasses the volume control section on the DAC ... so will simply turn it off when using it as a headphone amp!
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    Wow no one has posted on this thread for a while, so here goes.
    The STP-SE is excellent, the only negative, I wish the display was bigger. I got spoiled with the display on my Simaudio i7
    I have the STP-SE feeding a pair of Red Dragon Audio S500s with awesome results!! I hooked up the 12volt in and out triggers...excellent!!

    I decided to do a DIY IEC upgrade on the STP-SE with a Furutech AC-1501 R
    The cover has LOTS of TORX not hex screws (I almost stripped a screw) so they are very small TORX!! (very important)LOL
    When you pop the cover be careful there is a ribbon cable for the display and volume, there is also a ground (just left it attached)
    I had planned on front mounting the AC-1501R, but you cant. The factory IEC mounts from behind on 2 threaded studs.
    You have to make the hole cutout in the chassis slightly bigger to accept the AC-1501R
    So you just have to do some filing. Use a flat file and probably be best to have some small needle file on hand.
    Don't go over board with filing. Just file what you need taken off...test a few times to get a nice fit.
    The new Furutech AC-1501R IEC has male spades so the factory wires hook right up, put the cover back on and you are done.
    You need a 1/4 inch (or a small wrench, I guess) deep socket for the small stud nuts that hold the IEC in place.
    The torx driver needed for the cover screws is a T10

    Its not a difficult project, take your time anyone can do it. The Furutech AC-1501R is a EMI filter with rhodium contacts
    I asked EJ Sorento at W4S if he thought it would make a difference. He said yes and to go for it and recommended it.
    Putting my ear up to my speakers tweeter I could hear a faint noise before, but I think its quieter now...hey its a reasonably cheap mod

    Next I am going to replace the fuse, I ordered one, but it wasn't in at the time I received the AC-1501R and I couldn't wait LOLThe fuse size is 1amp slow blow 5mm x 20mm 230volt fuse

    So just a quick recap for tools needed flat file, needle files, 1/4 inch deep socket maybe a 1/4 inch wrench, Torx T10 screwdriver or T10 driver
    space is little tight in there so when initially I use the deep 1/4 inch and used a pair of pliers to loosen the nuts...improvise right


    I will add when my fuse comes in. The fuse I ordered is a Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme...if you got the bucks go for a Synergistic Black or Blue fuse, but if your wife finds out you might be Black and Blue LOL

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    Ya I read that review at 10audio too. A 10LP rating, hard to argue with that.
    New they are an excellent value. I bought mine gently used, the value is well, forgetaboutit lol.
    I would love to get the stage 2 upgrades for mine, but in Canadian bucks it would cost me more than double what I paid for the STP-SE
    There was that place in Canada to get mods done. They use op amps and I am not sure how I feel about that.
    I wouldn't want to change the sonic signature too much, maybe my concerns are unwarranted.
    I am not into electronics, but I figured I can change the IEC and put in a fuse myself on the cheap...and EJ said go for it.

    Oh incidentally I wanted to give a BIG THANKS to EJ at Wyred4Sound, he answered all my dumb questions...nice guy too.

    I cant believe how great the STP-SE is for the money, heck it is great period. The STP-SE/Red Dragon S500s combo is awesome!!
    My S500s are probably still improving, the sound is getting better and better.
    You know even if I had bought the STP-SE brand new, Id still be totally happy.

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    A fuse is easy, but I would stay away from other places that do "mods". There are places out there offering cheaper or what they call "better" upgrades and they, in general are not upgrades and some in fact actually hurt the performance of the pre-amp. Other than something like a fuse definitely make sure that any upgrades are done by Wyred themselves.... the only way to get upgrades on the STP-SE done is to send it to their facility in Atascadero, CA.

    I call EJ a friend and know the crew at W4S. I actually worked for EJ for a few months before getting a position back in my normal field. So I do know what I talk about in this regards.
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    This is the place I was talking about for the mods..I think he is a reputable guy, I think he owns Parts Connexion now?

    https://www.underwoodhifi.com/modifi.../wyred-4-sound

    The only reason why I might consider these guys is because it is in Canada, then I don't have any cross border issues
    I believe it was on Audio Shark where someone talked about the Chris Johnson mods.
    I don't know how the 2 different mods differ sonically. Like I was saying they do use the op amps, not sure if that is good or bad.

    I talked to EJ and he said go ahead and do the Furutech AC-1501 IEC...did that myself and when my fuse comes in I will do that too,that's all though.
    It was just an easy DIY thing that I could manage. EJ sounded like a really nice guy in his emails.

    http://www.furutech.com/2013/02/02/1870/ I got the rhodium one.

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    Yes Chris is a reputable guy who was one of the founders and owners of Sonic Frontiers and Anthem. After he and his partners sold out to Paradigm he went back to running Parts Connexion which actually was before the other two companies. He still has some of the techs from the amp companies on staff and they continue to work on and update Anthem and SF gear. As far as I know Walter and Underwood HiFi are not W4S dealers anymore so don't know if Chris is still doing the mods to the STP-SE. Give him a call he will be happy to talk to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darcman View Post
    This is the place I was talking about for the mods..I think he is a reputable guy, I think he owns Parts Connexion now?

    https://www.underwoodhifi.com/modifi.../wyred-4-sound

    The only reason why I might consider these guys is because it is in Canada, then I don't have any cross border issues
    I believe it was on Audio Shark where someone talked about the Chris Johnson mods.
    I don't know how the 2 different mods differ sonically. Like I was saying they do use the op amps, not sure if that is good or bad.

    I talked to EJ and he said go ahead and do the Furutech AC-1501 IEC...did that myself and when my fuse comes in I will do that too,that's all though.
    It was just an easy DIY thing that I could manage. EJ sounded like a really nice guy in his emails.

    http://www.furutech.com/2013/02/02/1870/ I got the rhodium one.

    On an upgrade I do not believe there is a cross border issue since it would be dealt with as a unit being sent in for a repair, I believe.

    Bottom line is that it is your call, but I would not purchase an upgrade through them. By the way, Underwood is in Hawaii.

    I will say it only once again, do not purchase any upgrade for a Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE except from Wyred 4 Sound. It is not an improvement and you are not, in any way shape or form getting a Stage 1 or 2, and you may very well actually hurt your pre-amplifier. That is my last warning...

    Your IEC and a fuse upgrade is not the same thing....
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    Just wanted to say I got another pair of XLR interconnects today. I was running HT Magic Link II XLR from the Musical Paradise MP-D2 DAC into the STP-SE and HT ML II RCA out to my Red Dragon S500s. When I got the STP-SE I did try RCA in and XLR out. I didn't do any real critical listening that way. I think for some reason I liked XLR in and RCA out better.

    Well anyways my new XLRs got here today. With the RCAs there was a little bit of noise from the tweeters when I muted the STP-SE. With the XLRs everything is dead quiet. The new XLRs are Cerious Tehnologies Graphene Extreme. I think I like them better than the HT. The CT GE might not have quite as much air. To me they don't sound like copper interconnects either, but they do seem to have a bit more warmth.
    I know my amps are most likely still breaking in. I maybe have 300 hours on them, so they are getting better too.

    Anyways the CT GE sound fantastic. Balanced in and out with the STP-SE is definitely the way to go.
    My speakers are Dynaudio Focus 340s. All I can say is wow, everything sounds awesome together.

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    Great news! I loved and miss my STP-SE. Hopefully another sale comes along. Hint, hint.
    I’m tempted to order one with the stage 2 upgrade. My original one just needed to be opened up a little volume wise, otherwise it’s absolutely wonderful.
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    The sales don't seem to come as often as they used to that's for sure. I think you would have to spend quite a bit more to beat the Stage 2 as an all around performer with most any amp. Seems to have become Srajen's go to preamp for reviews. I still pull my standard STP-SE out every couple of months and it never disappoints. It is an especially good partner with any of the Job based amps.
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    I read all the reviews for the STP-SE, there isn't a bad one. Its funny I knew what it was, but was looking elsewhere. I really wasn't crazy about the style. I was looking at much more expensive preamps. Then I had one fall into my lap...ok I will give it a try. Wow, one listen is all it takes to make a believer out of you.

    I like all the functions and everything the STP-SE does. As I mentioned before I wish the display was a bit bigger and maybe red, but hey its so good I don't really care. You know I actually like the cosmetics now, its a real sleeper. Mine is black and with its discreet looks you don't expect much. Fire it up and I think most people will be floored, its that good. I will most likely have it a very long time as I know I will have to spend allllllllllot more money to get what will amount to pretty much cosmetic improvements and maybe slightly different flavor.

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    Kind of a late post, only found this thread today, but I got my used STP-SE stage 2 beginning of the year and I instantly loved it. Upgraded to a SR Black fuse from the beginning. Lots of inputs and outputs, great functionality, and more importantly, huge resolution. I am a proud owner!

    Inside pic of my unit when I was replacing the fuse. Lots of screws!
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    Congratulations! Love mine, too.
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