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    Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    Wonder anyone heard this combo and share my views below.

    Managed to audition all of the Raidho (D3.1, D4.1 & even the D5.1) models with the Devialet 1000 Pro. Seemingly, although good (had to be at that kind of price points), it does not impressed me much as the smallest floor stander, the D2.1 with the d'Atelier. The resolution is nothing I have heard before, clean, clear, transparent and a layered "big sound" presentation ... and I suppose I can only credit this to SAM. Moving on to D3.1, though bigger (taller with 2 more drivers, one mid and one bass), it does not seem to get any better though price had gone upper by a lot. I am waiting for them to be SAM'ed before making the final judgement.

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    Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    Jerry - I bet the SAM really helps and makes a nice difference to control the drivers. Heard the 3.1's, but not with Devialet. I owned the D3's with Devialet (but no SAM).

    Good luck in your search. What did you think of the big 5.1's? I heard the D5's at David's and LeRoy's and they are impressive, but you can get a good dose of the sound from the smaller models.

    My favorite Raidho's are C1.1's and D5's, followed by the C2.1 and D2.

    Looking forward to hearing the D4.1's.

    How were those?


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    Re: Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    Hi Mike,

    You are right - without Sam, they do sound like (or maybe slightly better - in resolution) than most speakers. I have not the chance to compare the D5.1 with any other in the same price range. BUT alone, they are really, really good. Better be right - Euro 200k. Man! And these are standard black gloss finish. Add on walnut veneer, easily plus another Euro 10-15k, sans discount of course.

    Seriously, in that price range, one had many choices and I do learn that amps matching IS indeed very very important. As mentioned, the Devialet SAM works wonder. I can and will attest to that.

    Cheers Mike.

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    Re: Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    I had the Devialet 800 and used it on the Raidho D1s and D5s. The D1s had SAM available.

    All in all the Devialet sounded really good with them. As I played around with the D1s, listening with and without SAM - I found that even tho SAM evened out the freq response I preferred listening to the D1s without SAM better. It made me tap my toe more.
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    Re: Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    My system consists of Raidho D2s with Devialet 400s. For me, SAM doesn't make a huge difference other than boosting bass a bit. I actually like it turned down to 0% on some tracks.
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    Re: Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Seh View Post
    Wonder anyone heard this combo and share my views below.

    Managed to audition all of the Raidho (D3.1, D4.1 & even the D5.1) models with the Devialet 1000 Pro. Seemingly, although good (had to be at that kind of price points), it does not impressed me much as the smallest floor stander, the D2.1 with the d'Atelier. The resolution is nothing I have heard before, clean, clear, transparent and a layered "big sound" presentation ... and I suppose I can only credit this to SAM. Moving on to D3.1, though bigger (taller with 2 more drivers, one mid and one bass), it does not seem to get any better though price had gone upper by a lot. I am waiting for them to be SAM'ed before making the final judgement.

    Interesting observations Jerry.

    Was the D2.1 with the d'Atelier in the same location as the D3.1/4.1/5.1?

    I spent some time yesterday with the Raidho D5.1 paired with Devialet’s latest Expert 1000 Pro and I came away with two impressions.

    First, the D5.1 can deliver music on a scale that defies words. The immediacy, speed and realism are shocking.

    Second, the flagship Devialet amplifier may be the best they’ve ever made but I personally don't think it ranks as one of the best amplifier matches for Raidho loudspeakers.

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    Re: Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    Hi "Foggy916",

    You could be right but then, the SAM could also be the factor that takes away so many of the "pops" issue which were mentioned.

    I have heard the only SAM'ed D2.1 (don't know if its of the same frequencies done on the D2 - this was the model mentioned as the SAM version on their configurator) but for sure, the resolution, bass etc, ... are great (until one hears the higher models - sans SAM ... good but not as great). Once can only imagine that the SAM will help improve the overall performance of the D Series speakers which I am pushing the local dealer to get them done. Understand they would be by October I think.

    As for more/less bass, I suppose its like taste, one would like more salt, less pepper on their food, or vice versa or whatever. Rooms size do play a part too, and if I do have the cash, the models I could only consider would be the D2.1 or D3.1 at most given the humble size listening space I have.

    Thanks for the feedback, as I am looking at these speakers - most part due to their crisp and clear resolution. The only stopper is I don't have the monies. So, dream on and listen for free at showroom till the day cometh.

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    Re: Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    Hi Kiwi_1282001,

    The D2.1 were at the ground floor with the D3.1's.

    The D4.1/D5.1 were at the main showroom with the 1000 Pro. Indeed the D5.1's (not SAM'ed) is the best performer, but like I said, at that kind of price, it had better be as there are choices that competes directly in all areas.

    Personally, I feel, in my small home the D3.1 would be the best match with the Devialet OdA (although the D2.1 is not bad, but just me that I liked a mid driver and an extra bass too). Well, hifi is such a controversial and diversified, I would not disagree with you.

    I would like to hear more from you. Learning from fellow audiophiles are one part of the hobby benefit.

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    Re: Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    Hello Jerry,

    How big is your listening space?

    There does seem to be a tendency in SG for kaki to invest in loudspeakers which are over-sized for the listening space.


    The good – actually great – news about Raidho loudspeakers is that they perform exceptionally in a near-field placement and can tolerate being located close to sidewalls. Having your listening chair close to the drivers means more direct sound and reduced impact from room reflections which proffers the listener with increased levels of fine detail retrieval and improved overall resolution.

    Furthermore, one possible reason you were so impressed with Raidho’s smallest floor stander, the D2.1 is because you were sitting closer to it, relative to the loudspeakers upstairs.

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    Re: Raidho D3.1 & Devialet L'Original d'Atelier

    Hi Kiwi,

    Listening space is W2.7m X L5.7m - rather small. Equipments are on the short side (W). And speakers will be near the side walls too.

    Indeed you are absolutely right that the D2.1 DO sound impressive because of near field listening. And my chair (one only) is smack right in the middle between the speakers and about at most 1.5m away. Nearfield indeed. If I am not hung up on having a 3-way performer, the D2.1 would be perfect, size, height, and price. Still, to ensure I am not just being prejudice, I would love to hear the D3.1 SAM'ed before making the plunge. Somehow I always have the thinking that the D3.1 is the sweet spot for Raidho is most environment. Changing speakers at this kind of price point is awfully painful, which somehow I have very short memory of. Better to be troublesome to "Dealer D" than to be sorry to my pocket with the wrong decision.

    Thanks for the advise.

 

 
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