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    Re: D5

    I've owned Raidho D1, D3's and now Magico s5 and Alexia's, so I'm probably in the best position to comment. The Raidho signature is a big, wide, deep soundstage with the best tweeter I have ever heard - bar none. The speakers completely disappear and the sound envelops you. The Magico's are very dynamic and detailed. The Alexia's deliver a very emotional, truly musical experience.

    The downside to the Raidho speakers (and why I still don't own them today) is that they do have SPL limitations which may or may not matter to you. Some have also complained of a slight mid bass bump (in my room, it was 40-140hz), but careful placement and a few tweaks and this can be tamed.

    As Mark (MDP) said, if Raidho ever cures the SPL limitations, I would love to revisit them. I do miss them. They did some things very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I've owned Raidho D1, D3's and now Magico s5 and Alexia's, so I'm probably in the best position to comment. The Raidho signature is a big, wide, deep soundstage with the best tweeter I have ever heard - bar none. The speakers completely disappear and the sound envelops you. The Magico's are very dynamic and detailed. The Alexia's deliver a very emotional, truly musical experience.

    The downside to the Raidho speakers (and why I still don't own them today) is that they do have SPL limitations which may or may not matter to you. Some have also complained of a slight mid bass bump (in my room, it was 40-140hz), but careful placement and a few tweaks and this can be tamed.

    As Mark (MDP) said, if Raidho ever cures the SPL limitations, I would love to revisit them. I do miss them. They did some things very well.

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    shoulda kept your d1's mike, and used then occasionally, easy to move in and out. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I've owned Raidho D1, D3's and now Magico s5 and Alexia's, so I'm probably in the best position to comment. The Raidho signature is a big, wide, deep soundstage with the best tweeter I have ever heard - bar none. The speakers completely disappear and the sound envelops you. The Magico's are very dynamic and detailed. The Alexia's deliver a very emotional, truly musical experience.

    The downside to the Raidho speakers (and why I still don't own them today) is that they do have SPL limitations which may or may not matter to you. Some have also complained of a slight mid bass bump (in my room, it was 40-140hz), but careful placement and a few tweaks and this can be tamed.

    As Mark (MDP) said, if Raidho ever cures the SPL limitations, I would love to revisit them. I do miss them. They did some things very well.

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    Hi Mike,
    In your experience what is the SPL (in dB at your listening chair) beyond which the Raidho speakers were not comfortable?
    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I've owned Raidho D1, D3's and now Magico s5 and Alexia's, so I'm probably in the best position to comment. The Raidho signature is a big, wide, deep soundstage with the best tweeter I have ever heard - bar none. The speakers completely disappear and the sound envelops you. The Magico's are very dynamic and detailed. The Alexia's deliver a very emotional, truly musical experience.

    The downside to the Raidho speakers (and why I still don't own them today) is that they do have SPL limitations which may or may not matter to you. Some have also complained of a slight mid bass bump (in my room, it was 40-140hz), but careful placement and a few tweaks and this can be tamed.

    As Mark (MDP) said, if Raidho ever cures the SPL limitations, I would love to revisit them. I do miss them. They did some things very well.

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    I read with great interest Jonathan Valin's comments about his own D4 Raidho where he said something in the design of the crossovers had to be adjusted so as not to interfere with magnificent ribbon tweeter...as I recall, it amounted to something like the speaker kind of 'swallowed up' some of the ambience/special cues of recordings as a result of some necessary crossover adjustments. He went on to write that the owner of Raidho "knew about these issues"...and was addressing them in the D5.

    If you can go back to Jonathan Valin's article (currently on Absolute Sounds website cover)...do you agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    Hi Mike,
    In your experience what is the SPL (in dB at your listening chair) beyond which the Raidho speakers were not comfortable?
    Thanks,
    Anshul
    It depended on the song. Classical music for example, could be played much louder than say 95db. Other genres, specific songs, specific albums, not even close. For example, play Big Head Todd, 100 years of Robert Johnson and you wouldn't get to 90db because of the driving blues bass on that album.

    But the challenge was that there wasn't generally a point where you could say, "oh, I can listen to this song so long as I don't go past "4" on the volume control." A song like Eagles Hotel California could be played at around 95db, but somewhere along the 4-5 minute mark, the woofers gave out and popped. It wasn't just the popping it was that you never knew when it would happen in a song and if you were really into the song, it would definitely make you jump.

    So I would say, generally speaking, 93-95db

    What I want to know is whether the c3.1's suffer the same fate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LL21 View Post
    I read with great interest Jonathan Valin's comments about his own D4 Raidho where he said something in the design of the crossovers had to be adjusted so as not to interfere with magnificent ribbon tweeter...as I recall, it amounted to something like the speaker kind of 'swallowed up' some of the ambience/special cues of recordings as a result of some necessary crossover adjustments. He went on to write that the owner of Raidho "knew about these issues"...and was addressing them in the D5.

    If you can go back to Jonathan Valin's article (currently on Absolute Sounds website cover)...do you agree?
    I think what should be said is "the truth comes out."

    I'm not a fan of JV. I've been to the exact same rooms at the exact same shows as him and I honestly have no idea what that guy hears. The stuff he gushes over, I'm not a fan of and visa versa. Thankfully, generally speaking, his colleagues agree more with my thoughts on various rooms and gear. I met a couple of them in the elevator at CES and we discussed this very topic.
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    Thanks...as always, guess I will have to hear them more thoroughly when I next get the chance. when I heard the smaller Raidhos I was not there to hear them but to focus on trading in for a demo Zanden digital...and I was therefore very focused on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LL21 View Post
    Thanks...as always, guess I will have to hear them more thoroughly when I next get the chance. when I heard the smaller Raidhos I was not there to hear them but to focus on trading in for a demo Zanden digital...and I was therefore very focused on that.
    Yes - and make sure you bring your music and you listen at higher than normal volumes to see how the speakers respond.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Yes - and make sure you bring your music and you listen at higher than normal volumes to see how the speakers respond.


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    Thanks...in truth, these may not work for me. I also use my 2 channel for video and I like watching action flicks. When I watch Thor...I want to feel the explosions...and in a room 17.5 x 33...I need serious slam to do it. I am much less critical when listening during movies...but that does not mean I would be happy if every time I wanted to play Thor like in a theatre...I wouldn't be upset with the cones choking ever ytime there is an explosion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LL21 View Post
    Thanks...in truth, these may not work for me. I also use my 2 channel for video and I like watching action flicks. When I watch Thor...I want to feel the explosions...and in a room 17.5 x 33...I need serious slam to do it. I am much less critical when listening during movies...but that does not mean I would be happy if every time I wanted to play Thor like in a theatre...I wouldn't be upset with the cones choking ever ytime there is an explosion.
    Raidho's are definitely not for action movies. Look to Wilson for that.


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