Ok, will do that. Did you wanted to check if the Pass did not bloat the bass as the Nords ?
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Well it will be a little easier to solve this problem since you have REW and can see as well as hear the results. Check out the waterfall plots in addition to the frequency response ones. Look for modal ringing in the range of 50 -300Hz and for 300mS or more.
It takes trial and error and patience. Establish a centerline in the room and a way to mark the positions of the speakers and proposed listening position. Start moving the speakers fore or aft in 6" increments measuring as you go. Then move the listening position if you can once you've got the speakers and measurements sounding/looking good as that'll make an even bigger difference most likely. Once you've got the placements down try adding the bass traps.
Of course you could buy Jim Smith's book "Get Better Sound" if none of this makes sense. It's chock full of other good stuff as well.
Using subs adds a whole other level of complication but it does allow you to optimize sound stage separately from bass. I bet this is fixable without them.
Good luck!
Thanks for the comment, Barry!
FWIW - I am currently writing a series on correct subwoofer set-up with "full-range speakers" over at the Copper e-magazine. But it won't be quite what most audiophiles expect, especially if they suffer from ACK.
ACK:
http://www.psaudio.com/article/the-a...mon-knowledge/
Subwoofery:
http://www.psaudio.com/article/subwo...rick-or-treat/
Some updates:
After removing the traps, I felt something was missing with the sound. So I tried playing with the speaker positioning and re-adjusted to move it by a 1ft closer to the wall. I also had to move forward my listening position a bit. Bass is much better & taut but still a bit bloated.
I am getting the TWL Digital American high current power cords for the Nords tomorrow. Will update the thread after it has settled down.
@Mike, I tried the Pass, same results.
@Barry, will do measurements over the weekends.
@Jim, I have your DVD set for a while now. Is there anything in the book that is not covered in the video ? I am very much looking forward to the subwoofer setup series. I don't have any ACK whatsoever, can I get my hands on earlier ? :)
Dev - does it sound like the bass lingers longer than the rest of the music or is the bass just flabby and uncontrolled? Also, are the speakers spiked?
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Seat position first - then, speaker position. Always.
There are 202 tips in the book, so yes... :)
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There have been several installments already. Issue 14, 15, & 16.
Sorry, unsure what you are asking. :(
Mike, the answer seems to be both. For some freq, it lingers a bit longer than others. I have listened to it briefly yesterday but I guess the only way to tell for sure is to take measurements. What I can say now is I can hear the bass but its not strong enough compared to the rest of the audio spectrum.
I have hardwood floors. Currently the speakers are not spiked. I am using Herbies speaker decoupling gliders. I had Stillpoints Ultra SS on them sometime back but there was some good bit of resonance coming from the lower part of the speaker base. Maybe I wasn't doing it right. I can put it back or try the stock cones one more time.
So this is what confuses me - so help me understand. How can I hear the bass and soundstage without putting the speakers in the right place ? In other words, in order to determine the seat position, do I need to put the speakers in a predetermined location ?
Ok, sounds good.
Nope. I bought the DVD set from Amazon.
I wasn't aware of all the installments. How can I get them ?
Sorry!
I am on a RoomPlay voicing session.
Will reply on Friday when I return.