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    Re: Nagra HD DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by bmichels View Post
    After the DAVE, the TotalDAC & the dCS Rossini, I tried today the ARIES CERAT KASSANDRA, a 60 Kg monster, hand made by a guy in Chypre. I tried it connected to my BHSE, with the DAVE also present. I found it a little more airy (open) and enjoyable than the DAVE, only by a slight margin, but .... NAGRA HD DAC remain still my prefered choice.
    My last testing is Wednesday with the VITUS SCD-025 which is a DAC + CD Player in a single box. It is Supposed to be very good sound, and I will have with me again the DAVE to compare. If I like it a lot, this will simplify my set-up by using 1 box instead if 2 ( CD + DAC), if NOT, then I will have to find the... extra budget to buy the NAGRA ;-)



    It is very strange that you dont like the Kassandra which supposed to be best analague DAC ever, supposedly much better than Lampizator which bonzo raved over the Nagra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hieukm View Post
    It is very strange that you dont like the Kassandra which supposed to be best analague DAC ever, supposedly much better than Lampizator which bonzo raved over the Nagra.
    I never said that I did not lile Kasandra ! I even wrote "I found it a little more airy (open) and enjoyable than the DAVE,".
    On the Go: RWAK100 > Chord MOJO> JH Roxane, Fostex TH-900, HE-X
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    -> for sale : Piano Forte PFVIII, Eddie Current 445 tube Amp (with many different tubes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmichels View Post
    I never said that I did not lile Kasandra ! I even wrote "I found it a little more airy (open) and enjoyable than the DAVE,".
    I mean like it as much as the Nagra HD.

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    So at $20k+ for a DAC, if you have to pay more to add this or that, it really becomes unreasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    So at $20k+ for a DAC, if you have to pay more to add this or that, it really becomes unreasonable.
    Agree, but... are we in a "reasonable" hobby ?
    On the Go: RWAK100 > Chord MOJO> JH Roxane, Fostex TH-900, HE-X
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmichels View Post
    Agree, but... are we in a "reasonable" hobby ?
    Good point! From time to time, I would lose track of this. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hieukm View Post
    It is very strange that you dont like the Kassandra which supposed to be best analague DAC ever, supposedly much better than Lampizator which bonzo raved over the Nagra.
    No one's compared the Kassandra to Lampi yet. The only comparison so far is with Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo View Post
    No one's compared the Kassandra to Lampi yet. The only comparison so far is with Dave.
    My upgraded GG just came back from Poland..the packakge weighs 31kg including the Flight case. Oh my back, this is amplifier territory. LoL

    Will let you know what I observe over time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo View Post
    No one's compared the Kassandra to Lampi yet. The only comparison so far is with Dave.
    As i try to explain the comparison was made not directly. Bmichels prefer the nagra over the kassandra. You prefer the lampi over the nagra.

    Where as people in the East said Kassandra is the best analogue DAC over the competition. It comes very close to top TT even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hieukm View Post
    As i try to explain the comparison was made not directly. Bmichels prefer the nagra over the kassandra. You prefer the lampi over the nagra.

    Where as people in the East said Kassandra is the best analogue DAC over the competition. It comes very close to top TT even.
    The Lampi Nagra was a direct comparison. There is nothing to say a Kassandra is better than Lampi except hypotheses. The only data we have now is that bMichels prefers Nagra to kassandra - was that a comparison in the same system?

    When a comparison is made, we shall see. regarding comparison to TT, even Lampi can be preferred to a TT which is not optimized. When a TT does get optimized, things change. Sometimes, analog doesn't sound good enough, but by changing the phono or some other component or set up element, we can get it sounding good. The variations in analog are just too high to make a generalization.

    There are a lot of people who prefer Lampi to their own analog set up. For example, this thread about being satisfied with digital as compared to vinyl was started by a guy who bought the Lampi. http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showth...s-of-the-hobby He has a very high end analog set up - kuzma xl4, kuzma 4p . Ypsilon phono and SUT, Lyra atlas, VDH colibri and shelter harmony carts. Today he prefers to listen via his Lampi (older generation, not with new spec). Does this mean analog cannot be set up to outperform much more? No. It can, and some vinyl quality is just too real for digital to come close to. But yes, it does come close, the Lampi Nagra system had an SME 30/12 for compare too.

    If someone does say their dac is better than analog outright, I would rather ignore his comments, and suggest he finds a new analog rig. But does it come close, sure. You can be satisfied in Mike Lavigne's system with the Lampi. While listening to it it is close, especially to Ortofon Anna.Yet when the vinyl stats playing, it is different, and the distance increases with the Goldfinger statement or with a 45 rpm vinyl

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