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July 28, 2023, 06:52 AM #1
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What is going on with Qobuz?
last time more and more albums and songs disappeared from Qobuz. Now this morning in a live album, on of the best songs is gone from the library and it was skipped. Think I will cancel my subscription and move to Tidal.
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July 28, 2023, 08:32 AM #2
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It happens in Tidal as well.
From Qobuz
" The album you are talking about was available and for several possible reasons it was removed from the supplier's catalog.
The reasons can be different:
- This product is no longer available from this supplier (change of label, etc...)
- The supplier, the artist : the rights holders have decided not to give us the rights anymore
Etc... "
That's why I enjoy having my CD's and LP's on hand. An artist or product supplier can remove their music from a streaming service anytime., after all they own the rights to the music, not Tidal or Qobuz.
There are 3 music rights:
Master rights are typically owned by the artist or record labels such as Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group, Sony Music, Believe etc.
Publishing rights
The publishing rights are the rights to the song itself, including the melody, lyrics, and arrangement. Publishing rights are typically owned by the songwriter or composer.
Performance rights
The performance rights are the rights to perform a song publicly. This license is required when your streaming service offers a live stream or when users can listen to music on demand.
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July 28, 2023, 08:40 AM #3
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"We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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July 28, 2023, 09:45 AM #5
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This happens with all streaming services. Really.
For really important albums that you cannot live without, seriously consider purchasing them. Check out Sublime subscription for purchase discounts. Some people (who purchased a lot) reported that the savings paid for the subscription itself.Peter Lie
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July 28, 2023, 04:51 PM #6
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Re: What is going on with Qobuz?
Celine Dion's taking chances world tour. It's all coming back to me know disappeared
Second album, from Roxette's tourism album the track It must have been love is recorded in 2 parts, a slow intro, and next the normal speed up one, that last part is gone too.
And this is what lately happened, more and more greyed out songs in albums. But sadly if I read the suggestions another streaming service won't help.
Think I will follow Peter Lie's advise and take a sublime subscription, i Another idea: I also can buy the original cd rip it via exact audio copy and stream it via Roon arc.
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July 28, 2023, 05:50 PM #7
Re: What is going on with Qobuz?
I don't use Qobuz as a primary source for listening but rather to investigate new music and/or casual listening; the main benefit for me is what Peter suggested, and the Sublime discount on purchases results in no cost for the streaming service if you buy ~5 albums per month (that is only ~60 per year, and less than the cost of a typical audiophile cable).
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July 28, 2023, 09:08 PM #8
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If an album is only available in 16/44.1, then physical CD might be the better option at the same price level. However, if the album is available in Hi-Res, I assume most audiophiles will prefer the Hi-Res.
For the disappeared albums, check on Qobuz web store whether they can still be purchased (even if no longer licensed for streaming).Peter Lie
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July 29, 2023, 03:54 PM #9
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July 29, 2023, 03:57 PM #10
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One more reason to buy physical or digital copies. Rip the CD/SACD, and save downloaded files to a NAS. I go one step further and back my NAS up to the cloud, insuring I won't lose any of it.
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July 29, 2023, 05:53 PM #11
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July 29, 2023, 08:20 PM #12
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"We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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