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    Re: So, does the introduction of MQA change/alter your plans going forward?

    I'm suprised how much better the SQ is than CD quality. I wish Tidal had a remote app to control the Desktop App. The Cars album is wonderful.

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    Re: So, does the introduction of MQA change/alter your plans going forward?

    I've been trying out Tidal because of the Masters announcement. 60 days free trial that one can cancel anytime is an easy thing to try. As i do not have an MQA dac, i'm getting 24/192 through USB from my mac to CH C1 dac. Agree with Joe and Bob that it sounds good even without the mqa dac icing on the cake. IMO, for a free trial or even for the $20 monthly fee, it's worth giving it a shot if you have a dac.


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    Re: So, does the introduction of MQA change/alter your plans going forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogulman View Post
    I'm suprised how much better the SQ is than CD quality. I wish Tidal had a remote app to control the Desktop App. The Cars album is wonderful.
    Wholeheartedly agree - I really wish there was a remote app, but for now I'm OK getting up every so often to put on a new album. I do it with records...

    That gives me an idea - an app to flip your vinyl records :genius:

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    I am using a headless Mac Mini as my Roon core/server and a MacBook Pro laptop using screen sharing to remote into the Mac Mini. It's a little cumbersome but works great.
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    Re: So, does the introduction of MQA change/alter your plans going forward?

    Okey-dokey.....four days in with listening to and thinking about Tidal/MQA.

    For the first few days I was amazed at the sound of the MQA files but I felt totally constricted even with 500 albums available on Masters/Tidal to play. LOTS of great albums in those 500 albums but actually not one of the maybe current 50 albums that I regularly listen to. I was in a happy dilemma.

    By today I realized that no matter what MQA album I put on, I could just sit and listen to it and enjoy the heck out of it, even if I never would play this album.....it just sounded so engaging.

    This is TOTALLY personal and nothing to do with what all this is about, BUT it's become clear to me. DSD and native DSD and High Rez PCM, again for me, made 16/44.1 so much better in most cases. Good SACD the same. They all made digital better.

    What I am experiencing with MQA streaming is a completely different situation. As much as high rez made digital better, MQA has gone down a different path. It's doing something different than even the best native dsd or high rez pcm does. Not saying better, although I could say that as well, but definitely a different twist on the equation.

    "Whatever" intrinsic quality vinyl has over digital, I know, that is a vast generalization, BUT, whatever this special quality is.....MQA shares this same intrinsic characteristic. It is not better bass, or better soundstaging or more real or dynamic or more holographic. It is a vinyl type listening experience.....also with no vinyl surface noise. Good vinyl delivers a presentation of the music that just seems right to my ears. Honestly I can't put into words what that "special quality" that vinyl has BUT I know that MQA shares this same quality......again, this is just what I am experiencing in my situation and not saying this is the way it would be for someone else in their system/room etc.

    Now I don't even care when they add more MQA Tidal albums, I can spend months exploring the 500 albums on the Masters list now. There is a lot of very familiar stuff on their now and a lot of things that I would not normally choose to listen to but I know that I will be able to sort of pick any album, hit play and sit there with a great big grin on my face.

    Btw, definitely not saying the MQA is as good as good vinyl, it's probably not. BUT it has that same "feels right" feeling you get from vinyl that allows me to enjoy music and become as involved in the experience as I do from good vinyl. That is a different experience for me than listening to DSD or HRPCM. They're great, this is different.

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    Re: So, does the introduction of MQA change/alter your plans going forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by tunes View Post
    I've been trying out Tidal because of the Masters announcement. 60 days free trial that one can cancel anytime is an easy thing to try. As i do not have an MQA dac, i'm getting 24/192 through USB from my mac to CH C1 dac. Agree with Joe and Bob that it sounds good even without the mqa dac icing on the cake. IMO, for a free trial or even for the $20 monthly fee, it's worth giving it a shot if you have a dac.


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    How does this work?? 24/96 is supposed to be the best you can do without a MQA-capable DAC, and the only free trial I can find is for 30 days?
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    Re: So, does the introduction of MQA change/alter your plans going forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    How does this work?? 24/96 is supposed to be the best you can do without a MQA-capable DAC, and the only free trial I can find is for 30 days?
    Go to Tidal.com
    Scroll down to tidal masters, click on "learn more"
    Then scroll down and you'll see two options, new users - experience 60 complimentary days of tidal hifi - click on "sign up to tidal" (follow the sign up process) then download the desktop pc/mac app.

    On the app's "settings" tab, click on the "streaming" menu and make sure your quality option is set to hifi/master (not normal or high)
    And below this, Under sound output, look for your dac and select it.



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    Re: So, does the introduction of MQA change/alter your plans going forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    How does this work?? 24/96 is supposed to be the best you can do without a MQA-capable DAC, and the only free trial I can find is for 30 days?
    Rob - Regarding the trial period, if you go to Tidal Masters announcement page they have a link to their 60 day free trial for new users. I'm not certain regarding the maximum sampling rate provided if you don't have an MQA DAC, but you can benefit from some of the MQA improvements if you use the Tidal desktop app set to Exclusive mode feeding another non-MQA USB DAC. Hope this helps!

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    Rob,
    Yes, you are correct. I am actually getting 24/96 not 192.



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    Re: So, does the introduction of MQA change/alter your plans going forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    I'd like to take advantage of MQA for the easiest and least expensive way. What do you guys plan to do or not do regarding MQA?

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    Joe, I'm quite sure in the end it will for most everyone here. They just do not necessarily know it yet.


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